Your version of the events sounds like BS though

Lol you still don’t understand how a starting list operates. It was probably set the night before. It doesn’t matter what time you call in, Jack.

It’s funny how everyone you talk to thinks something was wrong, but it’s only because you still don’t understand and can’t explain it properly.

You're right guys, I registered this account in 2006 so I could hang around for 17 years just waiting for the moment to make up an elaborate story about Bay 101 casino.

The 2p2 trolls who have repeatedly denied ever playing poker in California must know much better how Bay 101 games work than I do.

Or the simpler explanation - I've been part of the poker community for 20 years and never posted a thread complaining about anything because there was nothing to complain about. Finally, I experience complete bullshit from the Bay 101 floor, so I report it to gaming and create a 2p2 thread about it precisely because it was bullshit.

Yeah, it was BS, that's why I said it's a BS racket in the thread title. I'm glad we're finally on the same page.

This thread should be about people who actually know what's going on at Bay 101 and the rise of "semi-private" games in various places in the country. Not for idiot 2p2 NVG trolls to spam up this thread with relentless stupidity.

I just assume you’re not telling the whole story from how triggered you get by everyone’s replies to you that aren’t 100% supportive. You got mad that the employee didn’t say “yes sir right away we will put you in the game” so you twisted his comments and played the victim. I bet you the casino will just happily show that you jumped the list with a seat locked up. Most people don’t just seat themselves into poker games, they go to the floor and ask them to seat them. The ones that do seat themselves are usually chronic angleshooters trying to jump the list.

I think there are multiple definitions of props being used here. Players who play in games to keep them alive, but are reimbursed by the casino to play on them are considered props. They may or may not be employed by the casino.

Players who organize lists so games that don't always have the player base to get off the ground do are also considered props.

Neither definition requires that person to be an employee (though they can be.).

It should also be noted than many here assume that semi-private games where one player controls the starting lineup is bad for the game.

It generally isn't. At all.

More often than not, if the game was forced to strictly follow the sign up rules (meaning an individual could sign up to the list 10 hours early and be seated before anyone on the private list), them the game simply would not happen. The game would go private and there would be zero chance of a very good outsider playing.

Semi private games do not steal from the public player base, they make games that could be private into semi public games.

If there was enough of a player base to make the games go off regularly, the casino wouldn't allow a regular to do the starting list. The game would just get off naturally.7

I believe there is another type of prop. Iirc the player playing as the bank in house games like BJ, 3-card poker, etc are also called props. I believe these are the ones commonly provided by a contractor and the contractor also provides the funds.

I do know props playing poker or house game b@nks do not get reimbursed by the casino. Reimbursed players were (are?) called shills but CA doesn’t use shills iirc.

The entire was BJ can be spread in CA caedrooms depends on a non house/casino player acting as the bank.

I can’t believe there is this long of a thread all because some guy got butt hurt that he wasn’t allowed to skip the line.

Dude literally walked up to a poker table, sat down in an empty seat and then got mad when he was told to get up. There is no casino in the country where you don’t have to follow the procedure of waiting for them to call your name and tell you were to go sit.

but the floormen sarcastically said to gamble like a trust fund baby- the horror!

Floorman should have pulled him out by the ear

There are multiple posters that should have been pulled out of this thread by their ears a long time ago. OP is not one of them.

Keep it up and you’ll be dragged out of here

I just wanna know if the “justice department” ever got back to the OP? I spent hours reading the thread, but couldn’t read the whole thing.

I play Bay101 four times a week. I just pulled in today and there was Police tape over the doors and a big sign that said "CLOSED FOR CHEATING 'MANNER PLEASE' BY ORDER OF THE DOJ. PLEASE FORGIVE US, MANNER!!!"

It's a sad day for Bay101 regs, but obviously a great day for JUSTICE.

First post in years that has me actually lol’ing

So I was actually in a tourny yesterday at Bay101 and I overheard the guy who coordinates the high roller game that OP tried to sit in on talk about this thread on 2+2. I said "are you talking about the 2+2 forum thread where a guy was complaining about not being able to sit in on the game?" and he said "Yes! Totally ridiculous! This is the way it is for every big game everywhere, these guys are sitting down with $200K each, do you think they want to do that at some home game where the rake would be $50 a hand and they have to worry about security and everything? No, they want to do it here and thus the game has to be coordinated. This is not a game where you can just waltz in off the street and play."

I have the distinct feeling OP had no idea the amounts that people play in this game, and if he did, he would know better about getting into a game like this.

Maybe I no idea it was a private game because it’s listed on their board as a public game with zero indication it’s a private game until you start winning. This was the entire point of this thread: that the game runners want the control of a private game but the ability to cannabalize public games by masquerading their private game as public, which starts a trend towards killing public games entirely.

As I said a billion times, if it’s a private game, call it a private game.

Thanks for at least being one of the few responders actually contributing something substantial to the thread though.

Unfortunately this is obviously not an appropriate place to have this discussion because the thread has been relentless trashed by trolls, personal attacks, intentional distortion of what I’ve said, and the same one unfunny joke repeated ad nauseum.

I emailed 2p2, if they don’t want to fix moderation of this thread this will be my last contribution to this website. This website is a shell of what it used to be and if the owners want a forum filled with nothing but a dozen trolls making unfunny jokes and chasing away discussion relevant to the poker community, they’re the ones who bought this site, it’s their money, have fun.

Did you call the Justice Department about the direction of this thread?

Bawookles post was a good close to the thread, a mod needs to close this and put OP out of his misery, he’s practically trolling himself at this point