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Old 04-13-2017, 04:13 AM   #26
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

I watched a few videos...

-he clearly has mental health issues and is unstable/awkward

-it was depressing to watch and he acted like your typical paranoid/schizo/criminal

-the way he approached people and acted is the perfect example of what not to do

-I actually feel bad for him, he needs help.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:34 AM   #27
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I can be a professional BJ player as of today... a losing one but a professional one.
Just because im doing it for a living makes me a professional.. so its thin line i guess.
Doing it for a living means you are making a living doing it, as in making money. He was making money pretending to be a professional but he wasn't making it at blackjack.
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Old 04-13-2017, 12:40 PM   #28
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

I think he did know how to play Blackjack (and count), he first learnt it in prison reading books.

Just the guy is a low stakes player over hyping himself to promote sales on his new store. But now it looks like he is going back to the big house and it's all over.
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Old 04-13-2017, 01:10 PM   #29
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

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I think he did know how to play Blackjack (and count), he first learnt it in prison reading books.

Just the guy is a low stakes player over hyping himself to promote sales on his new store. But now it looks like he is going back to the big house and it's all over.
there's a small chance he can actually count well enough to win. very small. and if he can that's not the information he was passing along in his videos. for **** sake he had one about why you never deviate from basic strategy (when you should based on the count) and then would use one hand samples as his reason not to.

more likely than that he can kinda sorta count a little bit using high low -not accurately enough to win, not accurate with converting to a true count, self admittedly doesn't use indices, proper betting ramps, an understanding of ror etc.

and of course most people don't want to actually put in the work to learn how to properly count, don't want to know it's a grind with crazy swings and you can do everything right for hundreds of hours on end and still be down- they just want fast easy money and that's what this clown is trying to sell with his garbage merchandise (that he swears he makes nothing on but in the text posted in this thread apparently has super high markup)

he probably saw the garbage kevin spacey movie on the mit team, believes everything in it and thinks he knows what he's doing. then on top of it he lies about the stakes he plays, how much he wins etc.

he's not even a good con artist. someone would have to be amazingly moronic to believe this clown so in a way they really do deserve to be ripped off by him.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:05 PM   #30
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

In his videos inside the casinos he drew a lot of attention for someone who's trying to be an incognito professional.
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:13 PM   #31
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

Morgenstern ain't all bad. He exposed this cheating blackjack dealer at Betonline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:15 PM   #32
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

It is unlikely that this was cheating. It looked for more like sloppy dealing.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:03 PM   #33
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

He has a "bio" from his "incarceration consultant" business website. If most of it is true, he's a scumbag. If most of it is fictitious, he's a scumbag.

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Old 04-13-2017, 08:31 PM   #34
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

I would like to say that anyone that obtains their information, their beliefs, from YouTube or Twitter deserves what they get. But, that’s a copout. The Internet is one of the most fantastic inventions in modern history. It is also the largest avenue of fake information ever invented. (I’m perhaps a bit guilty as I was involved in early ARPANet days a coupe decades prior to the WWW.) Any nutcase, with a bit of knowledge of social media, can promulgate utter nonsense and gain a massive following. I receive, on a daily basis, solicitations for services to pump up views, thumbs-ups, reviews, links to my sites, links to frauds, paid blog posts, etc. I delete 95% and respond negatively to 5% when I’m pissed off at these frauds.

Pardon the Olde English spelling. In the 16th Century, Thomas Tusser wrote:
A foole & his money,
be soone at debate:
which after with sorow,
repents him to late.
Such frauds must be pointed out immediately.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:03 PM   #35
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

I stopped not long after the Bone Thugs being blasted at the funeral and skimmed through the oatmeal empire. Talk about delusions of grandeur. And if you think that's sloppy dealing, you must still play there.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:16 PM   #36
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

Never played there. Mike Shackleford came to the same conclusion as I. First, to deal seconds, you have to know what the first or second card is. This is a shoe. Even if it was a pitch game, this guy doesn't have the slick moves of a mechanic. This guy was clearly fumbling with the cards. If he was a mechanic, he was the worst I've ever seen. And, like many old-timers in the BJ field, I started with sleight of hand well over a half-century ago. (Yikes, I feel old.)

If an online casino wanted to cheat you, there are vastly easier and better ways.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:27 PM   #37
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Never played there. Mike Shackleford came to the same conclusion as I.
So did Rusty.

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Old 04-13-2017, 09:31 PM   #38
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In no way am I suggesting that casinos are our good buddies and pure as snow. I'm just saying that focus should be on actual cheating -- not what some convicted criminal on YT claims.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:42 PM   #39
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Mike Shackleford came to the same conclusion as I.
Link?
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:48 PM   #40
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

Sorry, this was by another admin on his site:

http://wizardofvegas.com/articles/to...to-bet-online/

Reminds me of the obscene calls this guy made to me. Ten in one day.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:27 PM   #41
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He has a "bio" from his "incarceration consultant" business website. If most of it is true, he's a scumbag. If most of it is fictitious, he's a scumbag.
How feeble minded do you need to be to pay for a remake of Get Hard?

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Old 04-13-2017, 10:41 PM   #42
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How feeble minded do you need to be to pay for a remake of Get Hard?
Is that the one with Will Farrell and Kevin Hart? Damn that reminds me I haven't seen that yet and have been wanting to.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:47 AM   #43
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You want to get involved in programs, learn languages, walk the track, things one in protective custody cannot do, not to mention if there is a riot the ones in protective custody are almost always attacked and or killed.

So if a riot breaks out, all the prison doors open and the protective custody inmates are slaughtered like some sort of cartoon?

it sounds almost.... fake
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:56 AM   #44
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Is that the one with Will Farrell and Kevin Hart? Damn that reminds me I haven't seen that yet and have been wanting to.
Yes....https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=
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Old 04-14-2017, 06:09 AM   #45
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

The guy is delusional, fascinating stuff.
Great fantasy and trying to make a buck out of it..

He should be a novel writer.
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:10 AM   #46
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this was my favorite part, shortly before i got bored of the lies and quit reading-

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I had organized what was and still is legandary on the streets of Sarasota, I was a boss at the age of 14. We were never apprehened, never caught, this chewed at the heels of the local authorities so I left for Bangor, Maine, where my father currently resided. After running a small criminal enterprise in the heavily police patroled streets of Sarasota coming to Maine was cultrual shock to say the least.
lol adolescents breaking into cars and on stolen bikes, had the 5-0 straight VEXXED YO. also, cash is contraband in prison. much like everything else written, all that stuff about "$5 for a pack of coffee" and "$900 a day from carrying boiling oats" is complete bull****.

this dude is about to get raped (again)
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:23 PM   #47
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Sorry, this was by another admin on his site:

http://wizardofvegas.com/articles/to...to-bet-online/
The article in this link does not come to the conclusion that the dealer was cheating. The writer says he really doesn't know but leans toward the dealer not cheating.

To me it appears the dealer, by rubbing his index finger on the first card, was reading braille. He knew the first card was not only good for the players hand but also good for the dealer hand. So he took the chance that the 2nd card would not be so good for the player.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:02 AM   #48
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this was my favorite part, shortly before i got bored of the lies and quit reading-



lol adolescents breaking into cars and on stolen bikes, had the 5-0 straight VEXXED YO. also, cash is contraband in prison. much like everything else written, all that stuff about "$5 for a pack of coffee" and "$900 a day from carrying boiling oats" is complete bull****.

this dude is about to get raped (again)
Not really. Stamped envelopes are $.50 cents. So order 100 stamped enevelopes and it trades as $50. FYI
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:48 AM   #49
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Re: "Blackjack Professional" Michael Morgenstern Is Scam, Arrested (Details)

why do you think jails/prisons have commissary with electronically loaded accounts?
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:56 PM   #50
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So if a riot breaks out, all the prison doors open and the protective custody inmates are slaughtered like some sort of cartoon?

it sounds almost.... fake
https://youtu.be/3M-hPpuAqwQ?t=1693

Or just start at 28:20

Being naive must be rough.
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