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Old 03-25-2011, 04:08 AM   #76
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Re: Quitting poker for a living was the best decision I ever made

OP try working for minimum wage and waking up at 7 am everyday then see how much you like it. i long for the day that i can make a living playing poker.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:10 AM   #77
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I quit my job after losing fifty buy-ins at the microstakes...
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:12 AM   #78
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I'm a 36 year-old married father of two and I love this lifestyle. I get to drive my kids to and from school. I play mostly when they are at school and after they're in bed. I've worked in the public sector, the private sector, and spent more years in grad school then anyone should. Disliked them all to various degrees and for various reasons. It's probably a personality thing - I'm basically a "l'enfer, c'est les autres" kinda guy.

I'm glad you enjoy what you do, and not trying to encourage anyone to drop out and turn pro, just providing an alternate POV.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:12 AM   #79
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being depressed playing a "game" for a living on your own time & making 500k in 2.5 years... umm i say stop blaming people & things around you for your own unhappiness
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:18 AM   #80
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I am 38 yrs old, married, father of three and there were many times I wanted to play poker full time and I guess call it going "PRO". I was making good money playing but I basicly felt like it wasnt the right thing to do based on setting an example for my kids and just the thought of poker being my career choice. I am self employed and my business has not been doing so well the last three years thats why I thought about putting in more hours playing poker and even investing some of my own $. Ultimately I chose to just continue to run my business, play poker a couple hours a night and sometimes put in a long day playing on Sat. or Sunday. I hear of all these kids dropping out of college because they are making huge cash playing poker and spending all day staring at a monitor and clicking a mouse. In my opinion its no way to live and I can see how one can get burned out and not enjoy playing anymore. Its important to have balance in your life, family, friends, and having hobbies. Overall Im not a huge winner playing poker but just about every day I look forward to playing and the competition.
Quit being a puss and follow your dreams for once
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:18 AM   #81
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It is not until you experience the realization that the ONLY reason you play is because you have to in order to survive,
lol Isn't this like 99.9% of all jobs.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:27 AM   #82
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So you quit poker but you continue to read and reply in the poker forums? Why?
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:29 AM   #83
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I hear of all these kids dropping out of college because they are making huge cash playing poker and spending all day staring at a monitor and clicking a mouse. In my opinion its no way to live and I can see how one can get burned out and not enjoy playing anymore.
A lot of 9 to 5 people stare at a monitor, click a mouse all day and are not making anything close to online pros fwiw.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:31 AM   #84
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being depressed playing a "game" for a living on your own time & making 500k in 2.5 years... umm i say stop blaming people & things around you for your own unhappiness
maybe try making over 5.5k posts on an internet forum in 12 months like this c**t. happiness just around the corner.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:32 AM   #85
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So you quit poker but you continue to read and reply in the poker forums? Why?
Once again Pokerbob has fooled us all.
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:24 AM   #86
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I'm not a professional poker player: I play micro stakes on-line, and the equivalent of 1-2 at a local club. But I love to play poker, and overall I've won more than I've lost. But I'm glad poker for me is strictly recreational. It's fun, it's a game, it's a diversion, it's social. But it really does seem like a very hard way to make an easy living....

By the way, having a "real" job does not have to mean a 9-5 grind, with a jerk boss and no fun. You just have to be creative and refuse to settle for less. You can have lots of freedom and money at work if you're smart and have good social skills, and most poker players I know are smart.

In fact, at the club I play at in Prague, I'm always impressed with some of the young pros playing there. But I'm always thinking they could be making so much more in other fields. Perhaps that's what they will eventually do.

I am an independent contractor, mainly working for one large, American IT company. They pay me a lot of money to fly around the world and sell software, stay in great hotels, eat in great restaurants, meet interesting people, and generally have a blast. I'm careful to make sure I always have other options, should this gig end abruptly. I work from home when I'm not traveling. I never wear a suit or tie, unless I'm meeting with customers (and often not even then). When I do travel, I always make sure I have time to enjoy myself: half day of skiing, or seeing the sites, or playing poker in the local casino, or just lounging by the pool. All on the company's dime, of course (except the casino, which is hard to expense).

Poker players are some of the smartest people I know. There are many other options out there. Quitting poker does not have to mean working at Taco Bell. You were smart enough to beat a very difficult game, just make sure you use that intelligence in the real world to find a job that gives you the cash you need, the freedom you crave.

Oh, and then play poker as a hobby, in your free time. Without the pressure of having to win to pay the rent, I'm sure it's a lot more fun.

On the other hand, I'll admit I'd trade my job for Phil Ivey's, any day.... But how many Iveys are out there? For every Ivey, there are 999 Jean-Robert Bellandes* (no offense)....

If poker's your thing, you're making good cash and having a blast, ride the wave. I'm just saying, don't think the alternative is selling shoes at the local mall....

*Actually, Bellande seems to have learned that poker isn't his thing, but being a celebrity is. So he's wisely trying to leverage his poker problems (his main problem being he apparently can't win at the game at the stakes he believes he should play) into something more lucrative. Good luck to him, he seems like a great guy.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:06 AM   #87
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Glad is working out for you OP

It's the complete opposite for me, I've been playing poker for a living for over 10 years, both live and online, and I love it and would not trade it for any job (I have a degree in business management and have owned/managed two family restaurants plus I've had a few other different jobs).

I will never trade the freedom poker gives me, plus I've been settled (married) for 4 years now with a nice house, an apartment for vacations, nice cars and everything else I could need...the poker lifestyle is perfect for us.

My wife and I love going out a few times a week together to different restaurants or just to have fun at the movies, theme parks, whatever, and we also really like having some time alone to hang out with our friends, things we would certainty could not do if we had 9-5 jobs.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:45 AM   #88
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:55 AM   #89
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I have played for a living over the past two years as well and I am trying desperately to get out. I have not made nearly as much as you, but I made more than enough to live the lifestyle I wanted and accumulate a bit of savings. I worked about 1,100 hours total in the past two years and I cannot wait to turn poker back into a hobby.

It is not surprising that most the negative replies in this thread are coming from people who have no experience playing for a living. For them there is no obligation to play; poker exists as a hobby. It is fun. It takes a rare individual in deed to play full time for several years and still find the game enjoyable.

It is not until you experience the realization that the ONLY reason you play is because you have to in order to survive, are you in a position to comment on the validity of OP's viewpoints. As a recreational player, the appeal to poker is the hopes and dreams of the immense wealth that getting good enough can provide. When you go pro (assuming you do so responsibly) you need to have a more realistic approach to the game and it turns into a job.

The freedom is great if you use it wisely, but it can also be a curse. For those of you who lead a life structured around your 9-5, you probably have no experience in maintaining a healthy lifestyle without that structure. It's really ****ing hard to do. Without knowing how you will respond in an unstructured environment, you are not really in a position to comment on his decision.

I held two really ****ty jobs for a year after graduating from college before going pro. I have some perspective on the workforce and how big of a grind it is. That being said, I am looking forward to rejoining it simply because of how much poker has taken from me as a person. Perhaps that is my fault for letting it happen, but I can confidently say that it will happen to most players who successfully play internet poker for a living. I would argue that it takes FAR more discipline to live a healthy and productive lifestyle as a poker pro than it does to actually be good enough to go pro in the first place. Most people commenting probably do not have the discipline to play cards on a professional level. If you don't have the discipline to play professionally, you probably wouldn't be able to take good care of yourself without the structure that a 9-5 brings, and poker would negatively impact your life as well.

Congrats, OP. Best of luck.
Very well said.

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Old 03-25-2011, 07:50 AM   #90
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Poker for a living is not depressing in my opinion, poker for a life is. Sounds to me poker controlled you life and now you have found balance in your life, im glad that you have.
Balance in life is key to no matter what one does for a living.
Stopped reading after this, says it all. Some people will find balancing with poker impossible, others won't. Either way it's not poker that's making you depressed it's the fact that you're unable to find enough things to make you happy and stick to actually doing them in a situation where you have almost complete freedom and no obligation to uphold commitments. Nothing wrong with that, a lot of people would probably suffer the same problems if they were able to play professionally.

Unless you actually hate the game of poker, obviously.

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Old 03-25-2011, 08:03 AM   #91
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Good for you, some people enjoy it some don't. You obviously didn't. Best of luck with your future endeavours sir.
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Old 03-25-2011, 08:07 AM   #92
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This. Every time i see one of these threads i know the dude hasnt worked full time before
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what these guys usually mean in these "i need a life" threads is that poker is too much hard work, so they're quitting in hopes of finding an easy job.

the variance and uncertainty is rough, but is the poker grind is worse than a bad job? forget the 9-5, try working 6-8, or join the military. where as soon as you get home, you eat, drink, and go to sleep to get ready for the next day (and if you chose the latter option, you sometimes don't even get to go home). those are difficult, soul-crushing jobs, tons of people have them, and they hate their job every day and want to get away. there is nothing romantic about this.

as a poker pro you may have failed to balance life and poker. imo, get better at balancing. there are tons of people who don't have a nice balance and unlike poker players, they don't have any choice.

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Old 03-25-2011, 08:44 AM   #93
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I give op a week b4 hes bak at it
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:02 AM   #94
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:39 AM   #95
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+1

what these guys usually mean in these "i need a life" threads is that poker is too much hard work, so they're quitting in hopes of finding an easy job.

the variance and uncertainty is rough, but is the poker grind is worse than a bad job? forget the 9-5, try working 6-8, or join the military. where as soon as you get home, you eat, drink, and go to sleep to get ready for the next day (and if you chose the latter option, you sometimes don't even get to go home). those are difficult, soul-crushing jobs, tons of people have them, and they hate their job every day and want to get away. there is nothing romantic about this.

as a poker pro you may have failed to balance life and poker. imo, get better at balancing. there are tons of people who don't have a nice balance and unlike poker players, they don't have any choice.
good post. I was in same boat as OP. never had a job. played poker since 03'
now I got a part time job( 3-4 days per week) and it has helped me focus when i do play poker + nice with having a routine to follow.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:42 AM   #96
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There are more important things in life than money. That's why everybody that has money keeps trading it for those things that make them happy. That's why everybody is out there trying to make as much money as they can!

Usually when someone is turning pro and has not completed their education, the advice is to keep some money available to go back to school. In your case, I would recommend keeping some money back for a BR so you don't have to start from scratch.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:54 AM   #97
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I don't get why people is always about the ALL or NOTHING when it comes to poker, balance ur life with some poker involved ($$$$ flows in) and u will probably feel pretty good about urself ... gl in life tho
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:03 AM   #98
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I don't get why people is always about the ALL or NOTHING when it comes to poker, balance ur life with some poker involved ($$$$ flows in) and u will probably feel pretty good about urself ... gl in life tho
+1 It just sounds like OP needed to start smoking weed (or find some other hobby) and find some cool people to hang with. Of course you cant just sit in front of a screen and play poker all ur life, that would just be depressing but so would doing that with a lot of other jobs.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:07 AM   #99
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page 14 and still no graph?
I'm still in page 1 / [ ] Great 2p2 settings.

Anyway, OP, you started this thread but have not cared to tell us about your life-style while you were pro. That might have been the main issue, lack of exercise, bad sleeping patterns & diet, poor social life, no sex, no love, etc.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:14 AM   #100
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life suckage ITT. makin over 200k a year and getting no satisfaction and saying life sucks, i call BS, you are 75% FOS, 15% Quasimodo and 10% loser. No, actually you are 100% loser. Sorry.
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