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07-22-2011 , 01:27 AM
Why not? Are you still in school?
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07-22-2011 , 01:28 AM
already have a degree, soon to be 25 y/o, don't feel like moving out of the country to play internet poker. I don't want to leave my family/friends/everything I love.
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07-22-2011 , 01:34 AM
I understand, but you might want to reconsider.
See it as an opportunity to travel the world. If you're under 25 and American, chances are, statistically speaking, that you've seen very little of the world outside of the US (apologies if this isn't the case).

I'm not telling you to leave for good, but why not take a big laptop (can by an extra screen anywhere you go), pack up a few clothes and live it up by renting some sick villas in Asian countries or cheaper parts of EU 3-4 months at a time?

You only have one life, and if you truly end up working some 9 to 5, no matter how well-paying, you might not have the opportunity later in life that you have now at that age given your skill at poker.

Edit: Personally, the main reason I started playing online poker was because of the freedom of movement and of schedule it allows. BF was the perfect opportunity to take advantage of that.

It's not easy, my GF and closest friends are all in the US, but sometimes doing your thing is alright too...
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07-22-2011 , 01:40 AM
I appreciate your sincerity in wanting me to do it, but I would have been traveling/living it up a long time ago if I really wanted to do that. It just doesn't interest me to live in Thailand. You are right, I only have one life, but living in Thailand/other countries for a few years isn't something I crave.
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07-22-2011 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
already have a degree, soon to be 25 y/o, don't feel like moving out of the country to play internet poker. I don't want to leave my family/friends/everything I love.
same I think, still kind of undecided it was pretty nice to make a pile of money working 500 hours a year : ).... i've traveled just enough to know that, at least for me, you can only enjoy a place if you enjoy the company and money isn't great company.
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07-22-2011 , 01:44 AM
Thailand, huh?

To be honest, I wasn't even talking about Thailand. There are many amazing places in Asia, EU, etc...
But if you're not feeling it, you're not feeling it and that's it.

I can relate. I'm a bit older than you (30 yo) and at your age I actually didn't care about travelling at all unless it was to go to Amsterdam to get completely smashed out of my mind.

Hopefully poker will come back in decent shape and I wish you to be able to travel later in life if the craving were to make itself felt.

Don't let you skills go to ****, you never know...

GL
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07-22-2011 , 01:45 AM
lol 500hrs/yr. If I'm moving to another country to be a professional poker player I would be grinding my ass off while having fun. 10hrs/week is a joke.
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07-22-2011 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
lol 500hrs/yr. If I'm moving to another country to be a professional poker player I would be grinding my ass off while having fun. 10hrs/week is a joke.
Yeah, fortunately for him though 4CardGrind plays 10 hours per week and still wins more $ than everyone. Sick life
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07-22-2011 , 02:00 AM
i'm just lazy, just took it for granted before Black Friday and played very little since the game is so miserable ya know, for sure would log the hours if leaving the country to play.

hard to compare happiness and money, no common terms, was much easier when I thought money = happiness and so everything was in the same units if that makes any sense.
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07-22-2011 , 02:13 AM
Yeah it def makes sense. It's kinda weird, if I was able to make as much as you in a short time I'd probably like poker a lot less, but since I was/am forced to grind hard I did all I could to make myself enjoy it. I'm not passionate about the game but I managed to create some form of competition in my head, like I'm trying to prove to myself that I can make it, so I get a lot of satisfaction from beating people at the game now.

Probably pretty sad that I make my living in an activity like that lol, but it's fun for me
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07-22-2011 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BobBlank
1.Poker for a living is so depressing

2.There are more important things than money

3.poker gives you no job satisfaction

4.basically turned me into a lazy, selfish, lonely person.

5.O, and before people say I am just a busto donk I quit after making $500k in 2.5 years playing cash games for a living.
no disrespect bro, but here's more realistic way of looking at things.

1. you are right poker is infact depressing.but so is every other job. not many people are at peace with their jobs.

2.nothing else is more important than money,maybe family....

3.well, if beating regs on a daily basis doesn't give you satisfaction, nothing else can.

4. that is so true, not so sure about the selfish part though.

5. nobody quits poker after making that much money in 2.5 years, unless
you are f'd by DOJ.
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07-22-2011 , 03:53 AM
never really understood the people who play poker for a living and say it makes them miserable. if you're miserable, quit. but I still believe in the saying that if you're miserable playing poker for a living you're either doing the "living" or the "poker" part wrong.
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07-29-2011 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gav800
I think I'm happy to concede that I'll never be a full-time poker player... it'll never take up >10-20 hours of my week.
I'm making like $100k+ IRL this year, so I don't see how I could make that playing poker (unless I bum-hunted live poker all year).
I think anyone who could make $100k+/yr playing online pokerz could be making 500k+/yr trading the stockmarket. Someone should just invent a stock-trading platform that is game-like and has high-score boards and stuff, all the kids would be hardcore into grinding stocks for a living in no time.
dumbest thing said itt
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07-29-2011 , 09:27 PM
Poker is great as long as there's no painful downswing, but the downswing is just too much pain.
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08-12-2011 , 07:12 PM
I recently wrote a blog post about this topic here at www.kenthecow.com
it's definitely a TLDR, so sorry if I'm trolling here. many of you might not know me very well, but i've been lurking since i was 16 and am 24 now and am friends and have talked strat with many well known HSNL pros who respect my game.

The one point I want to make is that quitting poker isn't failing. Many poker players view that quitting poker is the worst thing that can happen, but making money isn't necessarily the most important thing. Life EV is way more important. Balance in life is so important and I see so many people becoming obsessed with poker - it is the nature of the business. I'd rather be comfortable and be happy with my life than be rich and feel like a ****ty degenerate...really though, different things make different people happy so to each his own.

Many poker players feel like poker is the best option and that there is no way out to do other things, but there are definitely other ways of making money that are more lucrative than poker...poker pros just aren't motivated enough to take the steps necessary to do those things. it's not that you can't do anything else it's really that you aren't motivated to do what it takes to move onto something different.

GL OP, i wish you the best.

KTC

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08-13-2011 , 01:38 AM
I'd respect OP's post more if he was some well known solid grinder at stars but without evidence that he did indeed make 200k a year I find the whole post bitter and unbelievable.
I myself have always hated poker even when I first started and just kept playing coz i was making "some" money and had no other choice, once I started losing/breaking even and felt games and competition got so tough then the desire to quit had grown greater. Before that happened though I didn't give a **** and just kept buying stuff and going out to cover the depression. It's definitely not for everyone but I can't discount the fact that some might have genuine love for the trade and the poker lifestyle can work out for them.
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08-13-2011 , 02:39 AM
noticed some posts related to entrepreneurship- fyi my poker society claims over 65 percent of the players who have a won a tournament of champions tournament have gone on to run a successful business- im sceptical as to whether the correlation could possibly be that high!
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08-15-2011 , 08:46 AM
lol. Who would've thought that life would be the hardest range a poker player has to balance.
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08-16-2011 , 10:12 AM
Don't want to spambot, but I read this guy on one of the sports forums and it seems relevant to the conversation. Looks like hes a donk quitter here.

He didn't seem to quit gambling overall, just moved to sports. can't ever see myself doing that, but to each their own. I bet sports myself, but I'm not very good at it betting mostly tv games. nothing beats going deep in a MTT and winning with A high.

I get the general thread consensus of balancing life though. If poker is your life, that cant be good.

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08-17-2011 , 01:56 PM
Poker's just like everything else in life, some people are cut out for it, and some aren't.

If it was easy, and everyone had what it took to succeed, every douche bag out there would play(profitably).
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08-17-2011 , 04:36 PM
mostly all a waste of time. most players never beat rake at best. few do succeed but majority dont make a living. sites getting more and more desperate. so called stars living off the rest of us paying rake, most tv games no different to ameican wrestling. poker "names" playing with sites (our) money and not their own. all a bit of a con really . dont give up a good education for this. probably fade quite dramatically away in next two years- just like american dream and space program lol.
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08-18-2011 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lordlepus
mostly all a waste of time. most players never beat rake at best. few do succeed but majority dont make a living. sites getting more and more desperate. so called stars living off the rest of us paying rake, most tv games no different to ameican wrestling. poker "names" playing with sites (our) money and not their own. all a bit of a con really . dont give up a good education for this. probably fade quite dramatically away in next two years- just like american dream and space program lol.
Way to ramble on. I picture you talking to the wall in Rainman's voice.

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08-20-2011 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SayGN
I have played for a living over the past two years as well and I am trying desperately to get out. I have not made nearly as much as you, but I made more than enough to live the lifestyle I wanted and accumulate a bit of savings. I worked about 1,100 hours total in the past two years and I cannot wait to turn poker back into a hobby.

It is not surprising that most the negative replies in this thread are coming from people who have no experience playing for a living. For them there is no obligation to play; poker exists as a hobby. It is fun. It takes a rare individual in deed to play full time for several years and still find the game enjoyable.

It is not until you experience the realization that the ONLY reason you play is because you have to in order to survive, are you in a position to comment on the validity of OP's viewpoints. As a recreational player, the appeal to poker is the hopes and dreams of the immense wealth that getting good enough can provide. When you go pro (assuming you do so responsibly) you need to have a more realistic approach to the game and it turns into a job.

The freedom is great if you use it wisely, but it can also be a curse. For those of you who lead a life structured around your 9-5, you probably have no experience in maintaining a healthy lifestyle without that structure. It's really ****ing hard to do. Without knowing how you will respond in an unstructured environment, you are not really in a position to comment on his decision.

I held two really ****ty jobs for a year after graduating from college before going pro. I have some perspective on the workforce and how big of a grind it is. That being said, I am looking forward to rejoining it simply because of how much poker has taken from me as a person. Perhaps that is my fault for letting it happen, but I can confidently say that it will happen to most players who successfully play internet poker for a living. I would argue that it takes FAR more discipline to live a healthy and productive lifestyle as a poker pro than it does to actually be good enough to go pro in the first place. Most people commenting probably do not have the discipline to play cards on a professional level. If you don't have the discipline to play professionally, you probably wouldn't be able to take good care of yourself without the structure that a 9-5 brings, and poker would negatively impact your life as well.

Congrats, OP. Best of luck.

wow super solid post
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08-20-2011 , 12:30 PM
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wow super solid post
+1
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08-20-2011 , 12:59 PM
BobBlank's next job:
poker/life coaching, only 800usd an hour.
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