i dont understand the sentiment that a "pro" is required to spend hours on his profession. any professional (who works for themselves) only need spend as much time as necessary to fund their lifestyle. does anyone really "need" a $20k/month lifestyle? i think the answer is obvious. doing ANY activity to the exclusion of all or most others can be defined as an addiction. i think its sad when any prefession defines a person.

I'm building financial security. I'm making certain (unless I run superbad in life I guess) I won't have to worry a day trying to make ends meet. I'm building never snapping at my wife/children because of money worries. I'm building never
having to stay in a job I hate because I have to pay rent and can't afford to take a couple of monts of no income while finding something else. I'm building more chances and opportunities to do what I want in life, both for me and my current and future loved ones. I don't know about you but that seems like building something to me.


*edit* And, apparantly contrary to everybody else, I love what playing online poker has done for my personality. I am much more productive and motivated than I ever was. It is such a great feeling to eg work on not tilting and then notice yourself not tilt in spots where you would have. It's a great incentive that the amount of work and volume you put into poker is much much more correlated to your results than pretty much any other job. It's showed me the value of hard work (I got by in school on talent) better than an office job ever could have, and that has carried over in the rest of my life (I am much better at working out, improving myself in all sorts of ways than I was before playing poker). I don't know what you guys are doing wrong tbh. You have what must be a top 1% job when we talk about the correlation between what you put into it and the results (over a year or a 5 year period let's say) and you guys start slacking/can't get motivated to put in effort, wtf? If I work hard and start working very hard my hourly jumps by what, 30-40%? That (expected that is, promotions etc) of my friend the programmer jumps with... 5% at the most? I'd hate to think what you'd be like in a job with a boss that doesn't appreciate what you do. Suicide?

Fwiw, I've been pro for 3 years and apart from maybe the first two months I have never felt more motivated than now. Sure, there are bad moments, like in any other thing in life, but that doesn't mean that what I wrote about there being a great incentive to do your very very best isn't true.

i love this, well played

lol

you guys are the DEGENS not everyone else

yeah because everyone on the planet feels exactly like you, otherwise they are in denial.

God you are such a toolbox and don't even know it.

Just sitting and playing the same game for 5 years is crazy.

I find it pretty great tbh, and am far from a degen. You don't understand why someone would want to spent his/her entire life studying/playing chess for example?

move down to pocket fives where thry respect your resignations

you faquin stolens my graphs

Needs more love.

i love how the guy says "If I work hard and start working very hard my hourly jumps by what, 30-40%?" clearly your delusional. Honestly, all these ppl think this when playing poker, if i just work a little harder i can go from 2BB/100 to 3BB/100, u obv do not play for a living because u have no idea what yer talking about. FACT the game is way tougher, I played before the bubble and after, never went broke, but never went to high because i refused to go broke. There is a ceiling in this game, and if you can beat 2-4NLH/Limit games or higher you are part of 1% of the poker world, online that is. And u can scrape out a living playing yer .25-.5 NLH at 10k a year, 15k with bonuses, to live on 15k? but ya id rather make 15k then work for someone making 65k+ in guaranteed money working, lol; o also and have to play 50 hrs a week to get stupid bonuses that most of the time you have to earn!

ya work 30-40% harder on playing tighter, lol this sh*t just makes me laugh, poker has a limited scope now that everybody who plays esp. online knows what their doing +100

Why on earth would someone assume that the way they felt about playing poker for a living applies to everyone else who is doing the same thing?

For instance I volunteer in a charity shop for a few hours every saturday and really enjoy it. But theres another person there who is just doing it for a volunteer module at uni and hates it.

People in the same role in any job will have wildly different views on it. Some people love office work and others think it's really depressing.

It's whatever you make of it.

Sorry you had a bad experience OP but don't assume everyone else will. Sounds like you should have made sure you kept other aspects of your life healthy.

Its based on personal experience and observations of other people.

You are correct. But all I am saying is that I dont think my situation isnt rare (hating poker after playing it for a few years pro). So those thinking of going pro should ask themselves: is it worth the risk to go pro when I might hate it and have a 2 year gap in my resume?

that's my graph for one month and it totally freaked me out that this dude went to the trouble of finding my anonymous blog and posting it itt. i mean seriously WTF.

Inbetween all the NVG dribble, there are a few really good posts. Worth the read.

Thanks for quoting some of the good ones so we don't have to read all 365 posts.

Quilting poker for a living was the best decision I ever made

Iwould really like to know how many 2+2ers make/would make 65k+/year. 1%?


+1

I take my son every morning to the kindergarten. And you can clearly see who loves their work and who doesnt. And it's the same job.



Can you please explain why you won't disclose your sn? If you seriously quit poker then what's the problem.

Point is I would be really interested in discussing this topic. But only if you're real and talking from experience.



Is this a joke?

pro poker > pro mcdonalds

Iwould really like to know how many 2+2ers make/would make 65k+/year. 1%? maybe, if all goes well, no huge downswings, etc...

I did in 08 and 09 til I got backed for 2010 and quit playing decent volume. FWIW I had 50-60 ABI for mtts and didn't play as much as everyone else AND had big downswing end of 2009. 2010 was a wash because of personal life, played live, etc. But should be pretty doable playing mtts for sure, and decent cash stakes.

Did y'all ever think it could be a pro who wants to dishearten other pros and is still playing?

If so, the reason not to post the sn would be that he doesn't want you to find him at the table and lower his ev!

fixed my post

no

Yea right you show me the easy to get job that pays $3,200 a month with benefits.

I make twice that in a year.




Cause he has been caught in a lie, and there is no way out other than ignoring this most simple request. It makes the whole thread moot. I too was very interested in having this conversation but only if the guy is legit, otherwise, I could talk to my grandmother about how she feels about quitting poker.


Clearly.

Bob is playing one of two lines.He is either not nearly as good as he says he is but has such a huge ego that he is certain his results are due to bad luck and therefore legitimately feels he is helping out everyone by warning people not to play poker.The other line is that Bob actually doesn't play poker and is an anti-gambling God fearing baby circumcising nut job who is attempting to give credit to his opinions by claiming he is a professional poker player.