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11-22-2016 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
I don't know of a single, true professional player who berates his customers. Stop comparing the down-and-out 1/2 "pros" you interact with who probably mooch off their gf, family or w/e with dudes who actually play for a living.
In my experience, this likely makes up about 90% of the people I've ever seen on this site claiming to be "pros".
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11-23-2016 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PANRIPPER
I went through multiple phases of greener pastures, but grinding small stakes NL live ($500-$2k cap games) isn't something I miss. It wasn't all that great even though I regularly beat the games for decent numbers.

I now enjoy playing poker for pure fun while earning much better rates growing weed (see my previous posts). But just like the gold rush, and the poker boom, nothing lasts forever and I wonder what my next hustle will be, if I degen away my retirement and miss the 420 ship
I parlayed my bankroll into a dispensary hahaha
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11-23-2016 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Tomich969
Yes I'm assuming Bump must have travelled extensively because if he's talking about playing 1/2 and 1/3 or 2/3 in New Zealand, he ain't talking about playing with pros.


Yes I've played in most Australian casinos. All NZ. Vegas London Cambodia. Do u play in NZ? none of those stakes u mentioned exist at SkyCity Auckland. Lowest is 2/4....and there are absolutely heaps of guys up there 30-50 hours a week
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11-23-2016 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
In my experience, this likely makes up about 90% of the people I've ever seen on this site claiming to be "pros".
That's probably true, so stop comparing the angry dudes you encounter in your micro-stakes live games as pros when they aren't and you know they aren't.
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01-02-2017 , 07:32 AM
Hi man!
Interesting read as usual. Have you ever considered going into daytrading/investing, when the "weed business" is over ?
Some poker pros have done this transition...
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01-02-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
In my experience, this likely makes up about 90% of the people I've ever seen on this site claiming to be "pros".
This is very true.
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01-10-2019 , 02:02 PM
'' Originally Posted by ml02kr View Post
i love how the guy says "If I work hard and start working very hard my hourly jumps by what, 30-40%?" clearly your delusional. Honestly, all these ppl think this when playing poker, if i just work a little harder i can go from 2BB/100 to 3BB/100, u obv do not play for a living because u have no idea what yer talking about. FACT the game is way tougher, I played before the bubble and after, never went broke, but never went to high because i refused to go broke. There is a ceiling in this game, and if you can beat 2-4NLH/Limit games or higher you are part of 1% of the poker world, online that is. And u can scrape out a living playing yer .25-.5 NLH at 10k a year, 15k with bonuses, to live on 15k? but ya id rather make 15k then work for someone making 65k+ in guaranteed money working, lol; o also and have to play 50 hrs a week to get stupid bonuses that most of the time you have to earn!

ya work 30-40% harder on playing tighter, lol this sh*t just makes me laugh, poker has a limited scope now that everybody who plays esp. online knows what their doing +100''


POTY IMO

Being a slight winner is THE worst possible case scenario for a poker player. Because you think you can get better by just trying harder.
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01-15-2019 , 01:35 PM
'' Originally Posted by Plsd2BeatU View Post
If you're not controlling them, who is?

It's not a spiritual philosophy. It's psychology.

Feelings are caused by thoughts. If you have a bad feeling, a bad thought preceded it. If you don't want the feeling, don't think the thought. But then you have to be aware of them first. You don't have to take my word for it either. Just read some psychology and you'll find out all about it.

Either that, or you can continue to be a slave to a victim mentality. Most people like being victims anyway.''

You guys don't get it because you are not at the advanced level of personal development this guy is.

Poker is a negative sum game, is toxic. I am glad I left too it has been one of the best decisions.
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01-25-2019 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dealmeout
Big props to those who have come to this realization.

There's no question that the countless hours of playing, studying and thinking about poker will lead to better play and results. But for the majority of us, that only means going from someone being beaten by the rake to someone narrowly edging out a profit. That was certainly the case for me.

It's hard not to fall victim to the belief (or illusion) that if you work hard enough and are smart, you can eventually be a world-class player winning ridiculous sums of money. It becomes an unhealthy obsession.

I can really relate to your comment about being emotionally exhausted. I didn't dedicate all these years, hours, and personal sacrifices to become a nobody grinding out a couple dollars profit per hour. But that's all I am as a poker player.

You deserve a lot of credit for being able to walk away from it. That takes a lot more courage than continuing to chase after something that you know deep down you are unlikely to attain and may not even be fulfilling on the small chance that you ever get there.

If poker has decreased your general excitement about other things in life, it's time to say goodbye to the game. Best of luck to you.

POTY nomination
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01-26-2019 , 04:02 PM
Due to my career in the medical field, I'd never want to take up Poker Full time. Poker to me is a serious en devour however, I need to have fun doing it at the same time. It's more of a side job I guess you could say. There are to many swings going F/T where my job is a constant paycheck with outstanding benefits. Unless you strike gold in a large tournament the grind could kill you. Then I'd love to play poker for a living. IDK, Guess that's a point of view from a 39 year old husband / father of two. LOL
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01-29-2019 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
while poker players can be miserable to be around, I've never met one who would be such a hateful, obnoxious human being as bumpnrun, his entire activity on these forums is just hating the pros
Not really, he just KNOWS out of personal experience that poker is toxic. Just like i did.

To all y'all 20 somethings out there: IF you are lucky you will grow to be like bumprun.

If you're not a socialist when you are 20 you have no heart. If you are not a capitalist by 40 you have no brain.

Love this thread. I was in love with the game. Watched videos, reviewed hands, poker coach, talk poker with my friends, the whole thing. I grew to hate poker. But i am still here on 2+2 haha!

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01-31-2019 , 05:06 AM
Another bad reg bites the dust
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01-31-2019 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCANGEL0
Not really, he just KNOWS out of personal experience that poker is toxic. Just like i did.

To all y'all 20 somethings out there: IF you are lucky you will grow to be like bumprun.

If you're not a socialist when you are 20 you have no heart. If you are not a capitalist by 40 you have no brain.

Love this thread. I was in love with the game. Watched videos, reviewed hands, poker coach, talk poker with my friends, the whole thing. I grew to hate poker. But i am still here on 2+2 haha!

No one would ever wish to be like bumprun lol I hope that was just a bad joke Jesus!
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01-31-2019 , 05:53 AM
If you are smart enough to beat poker today then it is beyond stupid to play the game for a living. My point is you can make so much more doing someting else and actually create something of value (ie. a business that you can sell). On top of that you can do something you actually enjoy.

I had a tough time moving on from poker bc of all the time/energy putting into it and it turning into my identity. It's not easy starting something new from scratch but like I said if you can beat poker you can make it outside of poker.
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01-31-2019 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cpar1
If you are smart enough to beat poker today then it is beyond stupid to play the game for a living. My point is you can make so much more doing someting else and actually create something of value (ie. a business that you can sell). On top of that you can do something you actually enjoy.
What if you're, say, smart enough to beat $2/$5 live for $35-40/hr and are cool making around 50-60K a year and want to wake up at 3pm and wear sweatpants to work?
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01-31-2019 , 06:30 AM
Try 12 hours a day 6 days a week hard graft on a building site in all weathers for about £400 a week, and poker for a living might not look so bad.
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01-31-2019 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Themadmonk
Try 12 hours a day 6 days a week hard graft on a building site in all weathers for about £400 a week, and poker for a living might not look so bad.
Im sure you are far healthier than most poker players, and have more money then most. Are you stuck in your position? I am sure you can move up and make more......i would say good luck, but just keep learning and working hard and you should be fine.
From what I can tell reading on this site and meeting players live, poker is pretty miserable. I liked poker because it was social, it does not feel that way anymore, just a grind now for many. I wonder if it ever was fun for many?
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01-31-2019 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Numbnutlow
Im sure you are far healthier than most poker players, and have more money then most. Are you stuck in your position? I am sure you can move up and make more......i would say good luck, but just keep learning and working hard and you should be fine.

From what I can tell reading on this site and meeting players live, poker is pretty miserable. I liked poker because it was social, it does not feel that way anymore, just a grind now for many. I wonder if it ever was fun for many?
Poker never changed, u did..poker just is...you are making up in your head stories about fun or not. Poker like anything is a tool.... use it if u want...use it to make a living if it's the right choice for u....use it as a spring board the better things....use it to set money and time on fire....poker is never the problem...u are
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01-31-2019 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorXP
Poker never changed, u did..poker just is...you are making up in your head stories about fun or not. Poker like anything is a tool.... use it if u want...use it to make a living if it's the right choice for u....use it as a spring board the better things....use it to set money and time on fire....poker is never the problem...u are
We just see the world differently. There are plenty of documented stories of pros going broke and leaving a trail of owed dept behind them...sounds like unhealthy addiction to me. I see poker as not being much different than drugs an alcohol.
Your comment to me says that booze isnt the problem you are. And it is true to a degree, i quit drinking and drugs years ago. But booze drugs and poker do offer escapes and some fun, but they all have huge downsides. I know its possible to do such things and it will not destroy your life, but i dont know many rich drug addicts or poker players....met a lot of rich and happy people.
But hey man good luck with poker, you will need it!
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01-31-2019 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Numbnutlow
We just see the world differently. There are plenty of documented stories of pros going broke and leaving a trail of owed dept behind them...sounds like unhealthy addiction to me. I see poker as not being much different than drugs an alcohol.

Your comment to me says that booze isnt the problem you are. And it is true to a degree, i quit drinking and drugs years ago. But booze drugs and poker do offer escapes and some fun, but they all have huge downsides. I know its possible to do such things and it will not destroy your life, but i dont know many rich drug addicts or poker players....met a lot of rich and happy people.

But hey man good luck with poker, you will need it!
You are still passing the buck... "True to a degree"? Ever heard the term "after the BUT comes the lie?

Many people are able to handle having a drink or 3 and using it accentuate thier experience. Others let it ruin thier lives. This is alcohols fault?

It's a tool..
It's a u problem

Mind sets like yours bring about things like prohibition and Black Friday
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01-31-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BobBlank
True. But I think maintaining balance is like mission impossible as a poker player.

Your right, but in my experience it just doesnt work like this. And thats from personal experience and alot of other people I know in poker.
Are you insane? Look around at people who have no choice but to go down into a coal mine or sell hot dogs on a cold Chicago street corner.

Service is where it's at dude. Take 20 hours a week and help old people get out of their nursing home and you'll find what you do for income adds to your life, and doesn't subtract from it.
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01-31-2019 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorXP
You are still passing the buck... "True to a degree"? Ever heard the term "after the BUT comes the lie?

Many people are able to handle having a drink or 3 and using it accentuate thier experience. Others let it ruin thier lives. This is alcohols fault?

It's a tool..
It's a u problem

Mind sets like yours bring about things like prohibition and Black Friday
Do i know the world would be better off without booze drugs and poker? For sure.....nobody gains from these thing but the people who deal in them. Sorry just the way it is.....poker had a boom, but its over, just like ever other boom. How many poker players really make it? And if so how healthy are they?
There is a litany of busto pros and people in poker, that is a fact.
Sorry man. Way more down then up.
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01-31-2019 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorXP
Poker never changed, u did..poker just is...you are making up in your head stories about fun or not. Poker like anything is a tool.... use it if u want...use it to make a living if it's the right choice for u....use it as a spring board the better things....use it to set money and time on fire....poker is never the problem...u are
of course poker has changed a ton in the last 10 or so years.
it's way less social than it used to be not to mentioned way less donks especially at higher stakes than there were back then.
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01-31-2019 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Numbnutlow
Do i know the world would be better off without booze drugs and poker? For sure.....nobody gains from these thing but the people who deal in them. Sorry just the way it is.....poker had a boom, but its over, just like ever other boom. How many poker players really make it? And if so how healthy are they?

There is a litany of busto pros and people in poker, that is a fact.

Sorry man. Way more down then up.
But the world isn't going to go without drugs and poker is it? Prohibition is a failed paradigm.

Sorry just the way it is.
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01-31-2019 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorXP
But the world isn't going to go without drugs and poker is it? Prohibition is a failed paradigm.

Sorry just the way it is.
Yea and thats sad, but i can only do what i can do......if people want to stay miserable and slave away, who am i to judge?
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