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02-19-2016 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
This.
What?
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02-19-2016 , 10:43 AM
As long as they have a similar Men Only tournament where they charge women 10x as much I am fine with it.

Who decides if the person is a "real" woman to qualify for the discount (or to avoid the 10x penalty)? Is just "identifying" as a woman now good enough?

A no-swearing/insult-free tourney where its terms were enforced by immediate expulsion at the first instance would probably do more to make recs (men and women) feel comfortable playing than any gender segregation. Poker should be fun not political.

Last edited by restorativejustice; 02-19-2016 at 10:50 AM.
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02-19-2016 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
*I think men should be able to play at wemens price as long as they bring a sandwich for all the ladies at their 1st table. 1/2 price if they know all hosts on The View and have read all of Oprahs books.
Excellent point. This will let the women feel well treated and respected.

Obvious snag: who will make the sandwiches if all the women are playing poker?
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02-19-2016 , 11:51 AM
I agree with keeping it as close to 100% women only as possible. There should probably be more women-only events added to the schedule.

LOL @ people that are still short-sighted enough to argue against it. Men-only event? Really?
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02-19-2016 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
If you are opposed to 2X would you change your mind at 3X?
delete your account
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02-19-2016 , 12:14 PM
i vote for 6.9x
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02-19-2016 , 12:17 PM
Some guy could pay $1,000,000 to enter and a large portion of the field would still be mad.

Not that they are wrong. People should be able to contain themselves and stay out of this event for a single day of the year.
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02-19-2016 , 12:17 PM
What about if men want to play in the event they have to wear tights, mini skirt, tight top, a wig and inches of make up?
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02-19-2016 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Just had an idea with both obvious upsides and downsides.
As often is the case when you start a thread I'm left scratching my head as to why. Especially from a man who's made some great contributions to poker theory. Perhaps you would explain why you started it? Also why do you title the thread "idea" - are you advocating men be charged 2x? If so, why do you think it is better than 10x?

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
If you are opposed to 2X would you change your mind at 3X?
Are you looking to find some kind of equilibrium point? If so, specify where the point of equilibrium is - 50% men? 0% men? More women? More entrants?
And why is that an objective?

Most people have lots of thoughts every day but most of us don't post them on 2+2 (starting 2 new threads no less!) unless they have some good basis. I know its partly your site but at least explain where you're going with the thought and why you think its a good idea (if indeed you do).
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02-19-2016 , 12:56 PM
What a bait n switch this thread title.
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02-19-2016 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
What about if men want to play in the event they have to wear tights, mini skirt, tight top, a wig and inches of make up?
Shaun Deeb already tried that......

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02-19-2016 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Shaun Deeb already tried that......

that image is disturbing and funny at the same time.

Just let men with A cup moobs and above register for even money.
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02-19-2016 , 01:35 PM
She/he can play ?

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02-19-2016 , 01:42 PM
How about if men have to pay 3.2 times the buy-in, and post a 3 big blind straddle from the cutoff every orbit, but they can raise for less than a minraise whenever they want and if anyone at the table is wearing blue, the man has to sit out when he is UTG+1, but if he wins a pot while bluffing with 72o then he gets to choose an opponent to lose 10 big blinds from their stack, but if he is over 5'10 tall he is not allowed to wear a hat?
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02-19-2016 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
How do they keep the young men out of the senior's event?
Table full of old man breath.
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02-19-2016 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
How about if men have to pay 3.2 times the buy-in, and post a 3 big blind straddle from the cutoff every orbit, but they can raise for less than a minraise whenever they want and if anyone at the table is wearing blue, the man has to sit out when he is UTG+1, but if he wins a pot while bluffing with 72o then he gets to choose an opponent to lose 10 big blinds from their stack, but if he is over 5'10 tall he is not allowed to wear a hat?
I was totally with you up until the hat part.
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02-19-2016 , 03:04 PM
So suppose I framed it a bit differently. Suppose I suggested a tournament where ladies could enter for half price?
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02-19-2016 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by raidalot
As often is the case when you start a thread I'm left scratching my head as to why. Especially from a man who's made some great contributions to poker theory. Perhaps you would explain why you started it? Also why do you title the thread "idea" - are you advocating men be charged 2x? If so, why do you think it is better than 10x?

Are you looking to find some kind of equilibrium point? If so, specify where the point of equilibrium is - 50% men? 0% men? More women? More entrants?
And why is that an objective?

Most people have lots of thoughts every day but most of us don't post them on 2+2 (starting 2 new threads no less!) unless they have some good basis. I know its partly your site but at least explain where you're going with the thought and why you think its a good idea (if indeed you do).
Publicity for poker. Whether the downsides override that is not clear which is why I post ideas about this and other strange things as well. I'm looking for feed back. (Some of you may know that I have several patents and have made good money on two of them. I need to know peoples opinions even if I disagree with them. This site is sometimes a laboratory for me.)
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02-19-2016 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
So suppose I framed it a bit differently. Suppose I suggested a tournament where ladies could enter for half price?
terrible idea.

i understand you're trying to make it more appealing for women, but the result of this half price idea is just propagating the notion that women don't deserve to be on a level playing field with men.
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02-19-2016 , 03:19 PM
Rant: The decline of the western online poker pro forum owner
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02-19-2016 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
So suppose I framed it a bit differently. Suppose I suggested a tournament where ladies could enter for half price?
It's basically the same thing.
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02-19-2016 , 03:20 PM
The publicity would be that men are inherently better than women at poker and need to be handicapped, and then everybody could have the same arguments and discussions they have every time the whole men-playing-in-womens-tournaments subject comes up.

I just don't see what good publicity comes out of this in 2016.
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02-19-2016 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
So suppose I framed it a bit differently. Suppose I suggested a tournament where ladies could enter for half price?
Yes David, that is quite a bit different than referencing an already existing Ladies Event and seemingly trying to get (more) men to enter it.
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02-19-2016 , 03:25 PM
I think its a worthy thought experiment I would also expect to create some buzz. How about a finite amount of "other gender" seats that are auctioned. I think theoretically there could be said to be useful information gained, but irl it might be difficult to set up a truly optimized "market" situation.

The price should have some bearing on the discrepancy in skill. The allusion here is that, if women on average are not as good at poker, this would tend to make them better.
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02-19-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
What are you attempting to accomplish?

There's already been buzz with men entering women's events: it's almost always negative. That's not going to change with men paying three times the standard buyin to play in the tournament instead of ten, which is a deterrent.
The buzz would be about men having the audacity to think they still have the best of it. The idea that most of the females playing in the 1000 buy in WSOP tournament are basically beginners who wouldn't welcome them, especially at 3X, might have been true years ago but no longer.
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