The self-righteous, White-Savior Complex is strong with this one.
Where would POC be if it werent for him taking care of their poker futures?

I looked over his twitter feed and he repeatedly retweets Shaun King, the white guy who claims to be black yet has refused endless opportunities to take a DNA test. Anyone retweeting that guy loses all credibility.

The rest of his feed is endless SJW "holier than thou" chest beating. It gets nauseating to always read how anyone who "Doesnt get it" must be a nazi. I wish I knew it all like they do. Maybe Vanessa Selbst can teach me.

By the way, do I get any sympathy for being trapped in a white male body who just doesnt understand why POC cant work their way up from 1-2 thru reading and studying on their own? I just dont get it! Save me from this body that denies me the True Answers.

Isnt experience, reading, and studying how everyone else does it?
Did I miss the "Secret White Male Poker Society Training Boot Camp"?

Why isnt he ashamed of his endless Cultural Appropriation by proclaiming to be a rapper? I thought that was bad.

It's really hard to keep up with the rules SJW's make these days

The irony of how extremely radically left wing so many top poker players are when they play a "zero-sum" game, that allows you to ONLY work as an individual and NOT as a community, and where you get NO benefit for your skin color or sexuality (or other protected status) and no one bails you out when you go busto is kinda funny. Poker is the complete opposite of everything the left wing wants and like.

I wonder if it's just those at the top since in my local card room in the Chicago area (hardly a bastion of right wingers) everyone is pretty diehard "rugged individualism, I worked my ass off to get to this point in my life" types and seeing a "Hillary for Prison" tshirt was not unusual.

Worthy a separate thread but I know politics is frowned upon here. Even though in the last two years you cant take a dump without someone complaining about it on twitter.

Yes, he should probably be aware of it (what the term Asian means to different people in different countries) before making statements about race and nationality to a large Twitter following, as clearly he has followers from all over the world.

I don't agree with absolutely everything you say, but the emboldened part is spot on and something I brought up when challenging the poker charity link and the REG charity in another thread.

(of course when I did this I was roundly attacked by an angry mob of people who either insisted that charity is a good thing under any circumstances, or who could not understand or were not prepared to even consider that there may be some ethical conflicts in linking charity with poker or indeed with people who are professional poker players putting themselves forwards as paragons of virtue)

I also just Tweeted to him that poker is worse than a zero sum game where ~75% of players are less than desirable to be with/mix with, where ~90% of players are losers in the long term and a pursuit that if you really go for it is likely to damage your social life and your sleep patterns, so if he gets *too many* people of colour into poker then he will actually be damaging people of colour as a group.

Deep down he has some good intentions, but some form of brainwashing or maybe a desperate need to feel like a great human being and a super important contributor to the well being of mankind, has in my opinion acted as a catalyst to him and others developing some quite strange leftist Socialist and political views, and by the way I am a Socialist myself.

is all good, you got froze

imagine how soft poker will be

"Tired of seeing only whites and Asians at these final tables. Obviously systemic racism is responsible for this, cause everyone likes poker. To fight back just a little bit, I’m willing to give free advice to any non white non asian peeps out there! Hit me up and I’ll follow you."


Under the terms and conditions of this offer, you split the pot as a mixed race poker player, and thus qualify for backdoor HALF PRICE coaching from the Enlightened One.


If you have equally mixed race children, they will qualify for 25% discount in coaching from the Enlightened One's International Church of the Racially Diverse Poker Players (No women or Eskimoes to apply).

Hmmm, to me ('Murican), I divide Asians geographically into four categories: East Asians are pretty much Chinese/Japanese/Korean, Southeast Asians come from Vietnam/Laos/Indonesia/Thailand/etc., Pacific Islanders are exactly what that sounds like, and South Asians are India/Pakistan/Nepal/Bhutan/etc.

I suppose technically there is a North Asia (all parts of Russia from Siberia to the east), and Central Asia (i.e. Mongolia). And that might sound strange to call a Russian Asian, but if you've ever seen the Yakut or Chukchi people, you would immediately ask them to help tutor your kids in math.

But you're right, I think if I said "Asian" in this country, most people would think of Team Yellow.

If anyone sees Prahlad, let him know I'll be more careful to check my Asian privilege from now on. Jeeeeez.

Only if you took Trig or Pre-Cal sophomore year in high school and take Cal 1 the following year, and Cal 2 in your senior year. If not we will have to ask for your Asian card back and deny you any Ivy league college, you can apply at state college.

i got my 23andme results back and im 1% black so i guess i qualify?

also who would want coaching from prahlad unless hes staking.

This is a very weak defense for openly making racist comments about Asians imo. I suspect that if he went on Twitter and said a bunch of horribly bigoted things about black people and women, that it would still mostly be white men criticizing him for it.

Ironically, the reason for this is the exact thing he's complaining about, the demographic of his poker playing followers.

Or even more tricky, what happens if the player is biracial or multiracial? For example, I have a nephew who has very dark skin, but by family history he is mostly Casuasian, followed by Hispanic, followed by black (Carribean).

Obviously this is a very stupid idea.

I'm not going to debate the topic with you ITT, but that's a pretty disingenuous portrayal of what happened, and has little to do with the post you were replying to.

It's almost exclusively just white and Asian dudes in chess too.

And backgammon.

And go.

And e-sports.

Meanwhile most major athletic pursuits all over the world are being absolutely dominated by non-whites / non-Asians.

Different races having different aptitudes at different tasks is a very taboo subject. It's one of those things that is obliviously true and pretty much everybody knows it, but nobody is dare allowed to speak of it. It's very Emperor's New Clothes.

Hell, we've reached the point in the last few years where we have to pretend men and women are identical too.

Nobody is even considering the attack helicopters.

Exactly. Some people think there's a problem if there's not equality of outcome (not equality of opportunity). But equality of outcome is obviously a terrible idea.

Prahlad is a virtue signaling clown. Just the absolute worst, makes me want to vomit. 'His' baby mama is a hoot though, she trolls a bunch of the replies (some genuine!), calling them "lil boy" and "son."

^^ Hey, I want my royalties!

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Pragress
@PrahladFriedman
Give a white poker player and a black poker player a sick labtop and a solver then give them free time. Then give both a bankroll. Who does better?

White player
21%
Black player
4%
Results would be the same
75%
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Pragress
@PrahladFriedman
Anything other than “results would be the same” is just racist as f***.
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Jonas Mackoff
@donut604
Replying to @PrahladFriedman
How could anyone give any answer other than, "it depends on the individual"?
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GoodLuckDaily
@GoodLuckDaily1
Prahlad are you capable of answering the questions you are getting in feedback or will you continue to dig your heels in, cover your ears and scream racism to everybody who disagrees in any way?
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zzy Harrison
@Lizzy_Harrison
Heels
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Johnny Mac
@Baldcapitalist
Replying to @PrahladFriedman
You should change your name to Regress

Of all the metrics to use to make your case chess has to be among the worst. Chess just isn't played in a lot of parts in the world and in the parts it is, it tends to be at it's highest levels an irrational dedication to intellectual masturbation.

Even between groups that're more or less ethnically homogeneous there's a huge discrepancy between countries. Bulgaria is basically at the bottom of the list, and then you go in any direction ... east, west, south or north, and you have countries close to the top of the list.

https://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml

Also fwiw, hong kong japan and south korea all rank fairly low on the list, well below a bunch of african countries.

This guy has never been the same since he punted a big stack to that dude barking

Can anyone explain to me why answering "white player" to that poll is racist?

To take the NBA example, if the question had been "if you give both players a sick basketball court and free coaching and give them all the time they need, who does better?" then my answer would have been "black player".

I mean Prahlad seems like someone who knows his stuff since he is a SJW and all and if he says it is racist it must be but I fail to see it.

So basically his point is;

Because white people on average grow up with more access to things like money, family support, etc. they have a higher chance to succeed at poker. They will on average be more likely to have friends groups who are more likely to have knowledge about training tools/solvers etc. They will on average have less life stresses than the average minority has and in turn this will increase their chances at becoming better poker players.


Etc etc

But that's the jist right?

I'm not implying I disagree completely, some of that is probably marginally true in a broad sense. I know there's still repercussions of the past. But I also think the vast majority of people today are doing their best at giving everyone a fair shot regardless of race.

So what was the # of black entrants in the WSOP? Are they disproportional unrepresented at the WSOP in general (vs total black poker players) or just final tables? I mean keep in mind the average final table is full of complete fish, i.e Darvin Moon! I mean lets be honest most 95% of final tablists aren't actually really good poker players.

What is the influence of culture on becoming a "las vegas" poker pro? Is it a problem that in theory some cultures or demographics might find certain cool (by Prahlad's standards) professions more or less appealing? I mean obviously no one gives a **** that women are vastly underrepresented in the field of plumbing, so it's only important when it's desirable (lol @poker pro being desirable btw).


I mean I know why but can someone explain to me in PC terms why so many professional athletes are black?

Wow, found Prahlad's poker academy.

It sounds like you actually do get it, but just not totally ready to accept the premise. Why are you equivocating so much? It isn't "marginally true in a broad sense", it is simply true. If you can get to that point and recognize that *on average* that is true, then it becomes easy to accept that Prahlad's attempt at "affirmative poker action" is a reasonable approach towards this problem.

Your statement that most people "are doing their best at giving everyone a fair shot regardless of race" is exactly how systemic racism works. It isn't overt racism where a hiring manager says "I won't work with those blacks", its obfuscated by the idea of a meritocracy in an unfair fight.

I'll give you an example that I wouldn't have known about or understood two years ago - I live in a wealthy part of my city, in one of the best school districts. My daughter just finished kindergarten and I got to learn all about how public schools work. See at my daughter's school, the PTA raises $500k a year from the parents and community around the school. That money goes directly to the school, it has nothing to do with federal, state, or district funding. Every classroom has brand new ipads, tons of books, art supplies, etc. The teachers are happier because they get things provided by the PTA that other schools may not be able to provide, so they on average get better quality teachers who want to work in a better environment. And yes the school is predominately white.

So my daughter has advantages starting in kindergarten that kids going to public schools in poorer areas simply don't have, and that effect is going to be magnified over the years to come. When she eventually graduates it will be a near certainty that she will go to college, because her peers are all doing that, their parents all did that, it is the norm. When she finishes college and goes to apply for a job a well meaning hiring manager will see her resume, will meet her and recognize her as an educated, capable person, and he will be absolutely sure that she is more deserving of the job than many people that might apply but didn't have so many advantages growing up. It's my job to teach her why that is, how that works, and to be grateful for what she has.

They aren't in a lot of sports. Pleb blacks don't dream of being hockey players as pleb whites don't dream of being basketball players and the outcomes reflect that.

Card games in general are big in chinese communities IME as is gambling. It's pretty unusual to invest any time into poker if they don't know a lot of people who play growing up, and people tend to stick within their cultural/ethnic communities. Probably why we see so few black people playing poker at all ... it's often the case that i won't see a single black guy at a casino poker room (around toronto) that runs 5+ tables.

Even if it is true (and i dont think it is based on personal experience... there's a ton of racial animus out there coming from all sides) it's not like human beings are nepotistic towards their children and are completely indifferent to even one degree of separation beyond that. People give a leg up to people in their social network, and people form relationships at least in part on ethnic lines.