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Old 03-13-2011, 02:48 PM   #201
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Don't play on UB that was a given. Rigged. You sir have gotten served.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:51 PM   #202
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to ignore the allegations would be as ignorant as to take them completely at face value imo
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:01 PM   #203
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to ignore the allegations would be as ignorant as to take them completely at face value imo
This is one of the few sane posts in thread
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:05 PM   #204
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-Thank you very much to those that have realized Prah has absolutely no basis for these accusations. Your faith in me truly means a lot to me.
Think this has more to do with Ike being involved than random people having faith in you, face it, you're not a samurai.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:21 PM   #205
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Ike talks a lot about the very strict HU ethics he practices. He could make a lot of money making new screen names on FTP and playing people that refuse to play him. It's against the rules, and against the high stakes communities' code of ethics, so he doesn't do it. This is very honorable.
Not cheating is not honorable...taking care of your kids or paying your bills is not honorable. It is the status quo.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:26 PM   #206
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Bonomos post reads a lot like a guy who still has troubles identifying right from wrong. Not cheating being extremely honorable (lol), ghosting just fine. He did brim up some good points though, how does Prah know who exactly he was playing the first time around? Issuing the challenge is exciting, Prah should have no reason to decline under those terms if he thinks he has a big edge on Bonomo.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:29 PM   #207
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As for the UB account accusations, I have a few things to say. First of all, if Prah actually did know the true owner of the account, it would be extremely unprofessional and a violation of customers' expectation of privacy for him to out another player's identity. If this were shown to be the case, it would be clearly unnaccaptebal on not only Prah's behalf, but also on UB's. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say he came to this conclusion on his own, there are still quite a few problems with his behavior. A) He has no proof. B) He has not explored any reasonable alternative (similar styles of play, legally having an account on AP, and UB, etc.) C) He has done virtually no research before throwing accusations of cheating and perhaps most ridiculously of all D) He is first sharing this information to the world via lol-twitter. As for the side accusation of Isaac playing Prahlad against his will: Isaac has the right to anonymity so long as he follows the site's ToS. There would be nothing wrong with this behavior IMHO.
The bolded part i found very disturbing, its like you somehow knew the identity behind the acct but kind of want to wash your hands from the whole thing so if this ends up being truth u wont be found lying about it, very interesting.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:30 PM   #208
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Does Prahlad not play Ike?
Why?
cos ike doesnt practice avoidance
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:30 PM   #209
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Ike talks a lot about the very strict HU ethics he practices. He could make a lot of money making new screen names on FTP and playing people that refuse to play him. It's against the rules, and against the high stakes communities' code of ethics, so he doesn't do it. This is very honorable.
Stopped reading right here. What is so honorable about abiding by the rules? You make a guy who (i dont know either way..) plays by the rules out to be some special case. I mean is the MA'ing that bad nowadays that this is as seen as honorable? Jesus wept.............

Everybody is supposed to play by the rules, regardless of what really goes on, for you to make him out to be anything other than any other Poker player, just shows the general mentality of these HS pros.

Should I be surprised tho, seen as this was written by a known and admitted cheat? Probably not.

Actually the more I think about it, it makes complete sense that you would hold someone who plays by the rules and TOS/C in such high regard...........

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Old 03-13-2011, 03:51 PM   #210
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

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here is the FTP chat log Prah accusing Tom Marchese of the same thing:


Genius28: and all this stuff u are trying to say to me out of spite
Genius28: is irrelevant even if it were true
Genius28: considering u aqre making accusations from 2yrs ago
Genius28: u realize EVERYONE multi accounted vs me yrs ago
Genius28: patrik durrr jman…everyone

Genius28: diff is…now they crack down
Genius28: and ur still doing it
Genius28: so fk off
Spirit Rock: great point genius
kingsofcards: i multiaccount?
kingsofcards: this is a new accusation
Genius28: no but wat u do
Genius28: is the same thing
Spirit Rock: nutsinho doesnt have account here?
Spirit Rock: his own account?
kingsofcards: his account is self banned
Ansky451: i thought he was kaintd77
Spirit Rock: what does that mean
kingsofcards: no
Ansky451: lol
Ansky451: joke…
Spirit Rock: def wont be playing u hu anymore kings
Spirit Rock: dont even know who im playing
Spirit Rock: much rather play nutsinho then u anyday
kingsofcards: i could say that about anyone
Spirit Rock: hes ***** terrible
kingsofcards: agreed
Spirit Rock: he probably told you to move in on me when i had AA lol
Spirit Rock: if i knew its nutsinho i call
Spirit Rock: u i fold
Spirit Rock: so its not fair
Spirit Rock: you could say that about anyone?
kingsofcards: yes
Spirit Rock: email fulltilt then
kingsofcards: i cannot tell who i am playing
Spirit Rock: shouldnt happen anymore
kingsofcards: but im not going to email anyone about it
Spirit Rock: lol
Spirit Rock: falskdfjalskdfha sldkfhasdkfhsaldkfha
Very disturbing comments...I know it has been suspected and many have multi-accounted and used other people's accounts to play in HS games, but how prevalent it is and who has been doing this is disturbing... Also, the argument of 'this was years ago' or 'it was accepted back then' or 'everyone was doing it' or 'it wasn't against TOS back then' is completely horse sh*&....
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:06 PM   #211
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

I don't think you guys believe me because I'm a new poster. I swear what I'm saying is true. Someone ask Prahlad or ask Erik about it. Prahlad embarrassed himself so bad in the pokerworld. He said sorry but thats just more bs.
It's the ****tiest thing someone can do. Imagine using an anonymous account to play against your best friend because you know how he plays? This all happened in limit holdem before no limit became as popular online. The stakes were huge for the time 200-400.
Erik backed him and was a good friend to him. Someone confront Prahlad with this story and you will see that it's true. Just because I'm anonymous doesn't mean I'm lying. ZeeJustin I swear this happened. Call Erik and ask him about it.
Prahlad is a crazy person. Yes he got cheated by UB and that made him paranoid but him calling out Ike and ZJ is out of line. ZJ did bad stuff in the old days but he paid the price. Ike has never done anything wrong in the poker world.
Prahlad is going to regret that he called you guys out because the truth of his past is going to come out. He is a phony that pretends he has high morals but he is a low life.
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:08 PM   #212
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Signing up with UB, despite all these haters. Now calling out these cheaters w/ no warning. Prah def. has balls.
Respect.

Prah is taking no prisoners. LOL at Zee's response. LOLOLOLLOL
Just because he signed with UB peeps thought it would be OK to cheat vs him.
WRONG

I like how he called these guy's out. Prah seems pretty credible.
Enough evidence for me.
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:11 PM   #213
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

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Also, the argument of 'this was years ago' or 'it was accepted back then' or 'everyone was doing it' or 'it wasn't against TOS back then' is completely horse sh*&....
No its really not. I talked with a ton of the HS players years ago. We talked about switching accounts and trying to figure out who new people were on a constant basis. It wasnt even frowned upon by the community in any way. Multiple screen names and ghosting (at least for cash games) has only seemed to become a problem post UIGEA. And on UB you could have as many accounts as you wanted so we'd make new ones whenever we'd start getting less action
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:19 PM   #214
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Did Bonomo graduate from the Charlie Sheen School of Logic and Practical Thinking?
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:45 PM   #215
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Good post ZJ, I agree with your logic.
Though you and Ike probably do talk about Prah's tendencies, which makes it harder for him to beat you. And I can understand it if that frustrates him.
The way he handled this was way out of line ofcourse.
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:46 PM   #216
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Did Bonomo graduate from the Charlie Sheen School of Logic and Practical Thinking?
You stop insulting Charlie Sheen!
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:52 PM   #217
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Phralad came across as a lunatic last night on twitter, he should have approached this in a much more professional manner if he wants others to treat it in a serious way. Should have posted on here with proper evidence.

Personally I used to really like Phralad but he just comes across as a self-righteous dbag lately. I dont think the accusations are true. My2c
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:20 PM   #218
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Not cheating is not honorable...taking care of your kids or paying your bills is not honorable. It is the status quo.
Cheaters always want some credit for some **** they supposed to do. For some **** they just supposed to do. A cheater will brag about some **** a normal man just does.
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:29 PM   #219
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Cheaters always want some credit for some **** they supposed to do. For some **** they just supposed to do. A cheater will brag about some **** a normal man just does.
Thanks Mr Rock
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:31 PM   #220
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

Did ZJ really say play me HU or apologize or did I read that wrong?
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:16 PM   #221
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Thanks Mr Rock

It was a passage I had memorized, seemed apropriate for this situation.

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Old 03-13-2011, 06:18 PM   #222
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

i think more attention needs to be paid to how badly ZJ owned this thread with his HU challenge
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:19 PM   #223
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

It's funny that no one is really commenting on Bonomo mentioning how there is no rule that states "one player to a hand". Isn't that basically implying that it's ok for two people to sit side by side and play on the one account?

Neither the accusation nor the response are convincing.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:25 PM   #224
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Here's durrrr accusing Peter Jepsen of having Lars Luzak playing on his account, durrrr says those accusations are basically standard in high stakes:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...omment-293281/

And ZeeJustin previously accused DrPill and isildur1 of account sharing in chat.

I personally think accusations like this are very serious and shouldn't be made lightly. But I don't think there's any support for your contention that Prah has violated some high stakes code by making the accusations in the manner in which he did.
comparing me and zj to prahlad is pretty off. Its a different situation when ur very careful to not say something unless ur sure.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:30 PM   #225
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Re: Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

"To the best of my knowledge, all three sites in question (Stars, FTP, Cereus) acknowledge that there is no one player to a hand rule online. Prah however isn't accusing us of talking strategy, ghosting, or coaching."
ZJ ghosting Mr X day one then Ike ghosting Mr X day 2 would just be cheating by proxy though.
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