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Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing Prahlad calls out Haxton and Bonomo for account sharing

03-13-2011 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JPE23
How is it baseless when we know Bonomo is a known MA'er?
People are questioning Ike intergrity way more than ZJ one in that case.
Tho it s awesome to see how people are not talking about the coaching/ghosting option, that explain PF feeling that something was fishy and ZJ mention it as something that could have been done and that noone could blame them about, that doesnt mean much since he cant say anything on that subject without sounding guilty whether he deny it or not.
It s a touchy subject as it s impossible to enforce a rule against it, but that sound like a really easy way to multiaccount risk free, any high stake player could pay someone to play for them and could change account every week as easily as they could hire a new assistant.
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03-13-2011 , 10:04 AM
OK cool. I actually like Ike and find accusations of him cheating hard to believe, but still, poker is not exactly honesty central.
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03-13-2011 , 10:11 AM
This entire thing could just be a publicity stunt / attention-grab by PF. Even douchier if it is, but wouldn't surprise.
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03-13-2011 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by YouGotPLOWned
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To the best of my knowledge, all three sites in question (Stars, FTP, Cereus) acknowledge that there is no one player to a hand rule online
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If Ike has been around me while playing Prah, or vice versa, it has been for less than 1% of hands played vs him
Something smells of lack of reading comprehension
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03-13-2011 , 10:33 AM
Between Prahlad and ZeeJustin/Ike these statements are hard to argue with:

Only ZeeJustin has been a proven cheater of any of these people. Once a cheat, always a cheat. SEE: Fields, Josh or Prodigy, JJ or Mizzi, Sorel

On the WSOP 3-2-call-1 hand...... should Prahlad have argued with the TD that he should lose the hand? Prahlad didn't lie and say "I didn't say call", he just sat there quietly and let the TD make his ruling.

If you had money stolen from you from an online web site by super users and that same site offered you a sponsorship for $100,000's of dollars would you say "nahhh keep your money"? I would guesstimate that 95% of you would accept it.

Prahlad clearly thinks he was cheated. He is an extremely smart guy. I doubt he would throw these accusations out there without being highly confident.
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03-13-2011 , 10:42 AM
Geez this is hard to follow....

Ok. So Friedman bumps into Haxton at Panorama towers and tells Ike he's playing on UB now. Ike smiles and Prahlad gets suspicious.

Then Prahlad plays some unknown (XXTRMSK8RX) on UB and kills him because he's easy to bluff. He thinks he's playing Bonomo.

The next day he plays the same unknown, he's much tougher and Friedman thinks he plays more like Haxton.

So that confirms to Prahlad that XXTRMSK8RX is Bonomo's account and he let Haxton play on it the next day.

That seems a bit paranoid to me. So far there's no confirmation on whether XXTRMSK8RX really is Bonomo's or even Haxton's account or not. Do either have known accounts on UB?
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03-13-2011 , 10:43 AM
Can someone who knows math/poker convince me that 2,6k hands is a reasonable sample in this context, and that their stats are similar enough to cause suspicion?
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03-13-2011 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nypoker2007
Between Prahlad and ZeeJustin/Ike these statements are hard to argue with:

Only ZeeJustin has been a proven cheater of any of these people. Once a cheat, always a cheat.
Actually this statement is not hard to argue with at all
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03-13-2011 , 10:50 AM
Ban Prahlad for admitted use of PTR? Maybe revoke his sponsorship? Or is PTR not against the terms at UB?

Regardless of his intentions or confidence, doing this on Twitter is just unreal and his sponsor should be looking for a reason to drop him...
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03-13-2011 , 10:51 AM
bonomo obv only here for a thinly veiled i have a girlfriend barg
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03-13-2011 , 10:59 AM
I am certainly not a public relations expert but I would have to think that somebody in the media relations dept. at UB would tell these 2 clowns (Joe, Prahlad) to STFU.

IMO not a good idea to sign with a poker site with a shady past one month and then start accusing people of cheating the next.

Anyway, I think Seebs will get to the bottom of it in no time so we should all just relax.
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03-13-2011 , 11:02 AM
meh If someone with credibility makes an accusation I'll listen.
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03-13-2011 , 11:11 AM
I think I have a more plausible explanation of what happened.

Haxton taught Bonomo how to play like him and vice versa. Then Haxton came on playing like Bonomo followed the next day by Bonomo playing like Haxton.

That way they can honestly deny Prahlad's claims.

Well played.
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03-13-2011 , 11:11 AM
"PrahladFriedman Prahlad Friedman



Its no coincidence that I just ran into Haxton at Panorama towers and told him I've been playing only on ub. I told him "i won't play u tho"

10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply "


because there is no way Ike would have know you now played on Ultimate Bet!

Prahlad is delusional in life, from the vegan rubbish to the Lisandro stuff then the sell out and now this.

In my view anything Bonomo says has way, way more credibility than anything that comes out of Mr Tin-Foil-Hat' mouth.
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03-13-2011 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nypoker2007

Prahlad clearly thinks he was cheated. He is an extremely smart guy. I doubt he would throw these accusations out there without being highly confident.
tnx for your 8th poast in 4 years

didn't Prah also think there were hidden cameras watching his puter screen ?
did he ever find these alleged hidden cameras ?
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03-13-2011 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BringingTruth
amazing. with those ears

definite brag he managed to pull one of the opposite sex regardless of looks


fly bonomo fly flaps those ear lobes

I see UB is still sending out PR people to make fake 2+2 account in pathetic attempts to defend themselves/promote their disgrace of a site...
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03-13-2011 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BanSooners
Noah is approaching Todd Terry and Fatal Error status in my eyes
pfft noah was crushing threads like this when todd terry was still a lawyer
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03-13-2011 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
tnx for your 8th poast in 4 years

didn't Prah also think there were hidden cameras watching his puter screen ?
did he ever find these alleged hidden cameras ?
Here is my 9th....

First of all you can't even spell "post". Sorry I don't have over 2000 posts like you do. I actually don't spend every minute of my life on here like you do. I just saw the twitter comments from Zee and felt the need to post (or poast).

The guy is a cheater. He will never change. When it's in your blood to always look for that extra edge you can't stop looking for it. So many people defended Sorel after he swore he would never cheat again and he did! Same thing with JJ.

All you Zee ass kissers and blinded by your love. The kid is a filthy cheater.
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03-13-2011 , 11:34 AM
Prahlads evidence is two hu game plans that aren't the same, LOL.

back to live poker
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03-13-2011 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FatalError
because most high stakes poker players don't air their **** on twitter and 2p2, which is one of the major issues with how prah handled this, it's a definite major breach of expected behavior by those as high profile as he is to have gone about this so publicly with so little evidence.
Here's durrrr accusing Peter Jepsen of having Lars Luzak playing on his account, durrrr says those accusations are basically standard in high stakes:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...omment-293281/

And ZeeJustin previously accused DrPill and isildur1 of account sharing in chat.

I personally think accusations like this are very serious and shouldn't be made lightly. But I don't think there's any support for your contention that Prah has violated some high stakes code by making the accusations in the manner in which he did.
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03-13-2011 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
Their VPIP is pretty similar IP and OOP. That doesn't say much, though.... They both just raise almost any two OTB like every body does and a bit more than 40% in the BB like most people do. I have almost the same stats, actually.

Their 3-bet stats are dramatically different. They're different by almost 7 standard deviations, so they're statistically completely distinct. That doesn't really say much either, though, since obviously HU play depends on the opponent. For example, I've 3-bet 30% against some people and 0% against others, so I'm sure there are 2k hand samples in which my 3-bet %s were statistically distinct simply because I was playing different opponents, even though I'm the same person as me. But, if Prahlad is presenting these stats as his evidence, this obv makes his argument seem pretty ****ing weak.

HU 4-bet stats and postflop statsare pretty meaningless in isolation because of how much play can vary based on your opponent's tendencies. The sample sizes are also pathetically small for xtrm (PTR only has 2600 hands on him at 50/100 HU). So, I assume he's not talking about those stats.

This is also a different accusation than he seemed to be making before. He said "XXTRM was super easy to bluff, beat him for a lot. The very next day its impossible to bluff him and he beats me for a lot,noprob right", which I think was meant to imply that xxtrm is an account shared by two people. Now he's saying that the account has identical stats to ike's FTP account (which it doesn't). How does that tie in? Does he think that they're both being played by two players with the exact same ratio of hands? What am I missing?

Plus, even if that is ike's account, that doesn't necessarily imply cheating. You're allowed two accounts on Cereus--one on UB and one on AP.

Twitter is also just not the right medium to have this discussion. He might have a strong case, but it certainly doesn't come off that way. I'd be happy to help out if Prahlad PMs me his AIM/skype.
LOL.

Anyone else read this whole post as 'Yep, I got that Premium PTR s.hit, also I buy HH's from PTR....So what' ?



/facetiousness
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03-13-2011 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry

I personally think accusations like this are very serious and shouldn't be made lightly. But I don't think there's any support for your contention that Prah has violated some high stakes code by making the accusations in the manner in which he did.
don't you think Prah could have handled it a lot better by contacting his UB mother ship that employs iesnare and asking security if the offending account XXTRMSK8RX was from the Paranoia Towers and exact location b4 going on twitter ?
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03-13-2011 , 11:54 AM
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03-13-2011 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kariminal
LOL.

Anyone else read this whole post as 'Yep, I got that Premium PTR s.hit, also I buy HH's from PTR....So what' ?



/facetiousness
You're an idiot. Noah is a solid contributor and has a track record of statistically analysing poker data.
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03-13-2011 , 11:57 AM
^^^
LOL. i know full well who Noah is.

I think you are the idiot here. Maybe try looking up the word facetious.
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