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Old 05-22-2020, 11:32 PM   #1
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Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Doubt anything comes of this but I am happy to see a designated forum spot for Betonline. I won't lie I was shaking after I realized what the **** happened.

Not sure anything will come of this but hoping they care about their reputation I would sure hope something does. Especially since they rake for the BBJ.

I did talk to support, they said they are going to forward it up the chain for further review so I really hope they make this right... I hold out hope they do the right thing

https://youtu.be/GenL0F7DfI0
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:41 PM   #2
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Loooool that’s so sick, but yeah gl getting paid....
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:49 PM   #3
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Haha man gl. This is insane. So the moment u hit your sflush you got DC? Was it smt from your provider or just the Beton line software. That's indeed really messed up.

Feels etremly sketchy tbh.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:53 PM   #4
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Haha man gl. This is insane. So the moment u hit your sflush you got DC? Was it smt from your provider or just the Beton line software. That's indeed really messed up.

Feels etremly sketchy tbh.
I didn't disconnect any other time. Literally reconnected not even 1 minute after it DCed me. Which makes no sense.. How come my hand got insta mucked. I am very sick to my stomach. Also feel bad for guy w/ the quad Kings cuz 40% was his and only 20% was mine but yes seems very shady indeed. Pretty sure I can get network provider proof showing my internet was up and running the whole time.

I am hopeful they have their own Betonline forum for 2p2 so hopefully someone from there reaches out to me. Have a feeling I won't get much from support but I do remain hopeful.. For some reason?

2020 can't get any worse lol
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:53 PM   #5
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Whether or not you were d/c'd shouldn't have an impact on whether or not you hit the BBJ I would think. You're still in the hand, you just couldn't do anything*

*I'm at work right now and can't watch the video so if you ended up having to fold because of d/c then I'm not sure what the protocol is. GL man fingers crossed
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:55 PM   #6
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

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Doubt anything comes of this but I am happy to see a designated forum spot for Betonline. I won't lie I was shaking after I realized what the **** happened.



Not sure anything will come of this but hoping they care about their reputation I would sure hope something does. Especially since they rake for the BBJ.



I did talk to support, they said they are going to forward it up the chain for further review so I really hope they make this right... I hold out hope they do the right thing



https://youtu.be/GenL0F7DfI0
Send that to Mike in the BOL thread. He should be able to help. It would be a real bad look for them to blow this off

Good luck
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:58 PM   #7
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Send that to Mike in the BOL thread. He should be able to help. It would be a real bad look for them to blow this off

Good luck
Thanks I did post it there also. Just reposted here for more exposure. Also DMed him on here so hopefully he gets back to me.



Also, I never folded but it auto folded me from the D/C when I tried to click call $13.50 on turn... not sure how it works and how it's recorded on their end. I saw the Qs saw the $13.50 then bam D/C
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:01 AM   #8
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

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Thanks I did post it there also. Just reposted here for more exposure. Also DMed him on here so hopefully he gets back to me.







Also, I never folded but it auto folded me from the D/C when I tried to click call $13.50 on turn... not sure how it works and how it's recorded on their end. I saw the Qs saw the $13.50 then bam D/C
You have it on video, tough for them to argue it. They're pretty decent people over there. Hope it works out for you
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:04 AM   #9
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

How much was the bbj at?
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:04 AM   #10
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You have it on video, tough for them to argue it. They're pretty decent people over there. Hope it works out for you
This is really reassuring to hear. Just started playing there of course so no real history! Hope everything works out
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:05 AM   #11
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How much was the bbj at?
almost 350k at top of screen, but I doubt that it's the whole thing for 1 BBJ. I've been reading their rules and stuff trying to learn more but not quite 100% sure how it works.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:07 AM   #12
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almost 350k at top of screen, but I doubt that it's the whole thing for 1 BBJ. I've been reading their rules and stuff trying to learn more but not quite 100% sure how it works.
Wow 75kish sick

I wonder if they ended paying you out if they would also notify bbj winner and ship him the 150k, are the bbj winners posted anywhere ?

Best of luck, maybe try twitter if you haven’t already....
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:11 AM   #13
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

I'm gonna go to twitter next. I did tell the whole table what the **** happened. Since it affected all of them also. Really hope they do something for everyone... No idea though, doubt anyone gets back to me anytime soon on this
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:41 AM   #14
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Good luck Devo. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think you will get paid. The video shows you disconnecting and folding and while it obviously it isn't your fault and there is zero doubt what would happen, I'm not sure BOL will view that as a bad beat worthy hand since the beat didn't happen.

I do like your strategy of raising awareness. I'd try to get in contact with Chicago Joey, Patrick Leonard, Matt Berkey, DNegs, Norman Chad or any other high profile(high followers) twitter people as they can make your story spread much faster.

BOL can get a lot of free positive publicity if they do the right/generous thing here and the more people talking the more likely BOL is to feel the pressure and hopefully do the right thing.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:42 AM   #15
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Just logged into my account to say this.

You 100% deserve to be paid.


There is absolutely 0% chance that this was not gonna end up all on the river with you VS Quads.

****ing even 99 would get it in 3way on the river probably.

I play there a lot and HS , ill keep an eye on this thread because i might move my volume away honestly if they dont pay you.

Gl w this.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:43 AM   #16
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Good luck Devo. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think you will get paid. The video shows you disconnecting and folding and while it obviously it isn't your fault and there is zero doubt what would happen, I'm not sure BOL will view that as a bad beat worthy hand since the beat didn't happen.

I do like your strategy of raising awareness. I'd try to get in contact with Chicago Joey, Patrick Leonard, Matt Berkey, DNegs, Norman Chad or any other high profile(high followers) twitter people as they can make your story spread much faster.

BOL can get a lot of free positive publicity if they do the right/generous thing here and the more people talking the more likely BOL is to feel the pressure and hopefully do the right thing.
This is a great idea, I am going to reach out to ChicagoJoey. I'm a fellow chicago guy who still lives here. Hope he can help!
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:45 AM   #17
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Good luck Devo. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think you will get paid. The video shows you disconnecting and folding and while it obviously it isn't your fault and there is zero doubt what would happen, I'm not sure BOL will view that as a bad beat worthy hand since the beat didn't happen.

I do like your strategy of raising awareness. I'd try to get in contact with Chicago Joey, Patrick Leonard, Matt Berkey, DNegs, Norman Chad or any other high profile(high followers) twitter people as they can make your story spread much faster.

BOL can get a lot of free positive publicity if they do the right/generous thing here and the more people talking the more likely BOL is to feel the pressure and hopefully do the right thing.

If he disconnected on the flop , then I agree.

But the fact that he actually MADE the nuts on the turn , they cannot argue that this hand did not " play out correctly " or whatever because even my mom's sandal would only call the turn and get to showdown 100% of the time.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:50 AM   #18
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Correct, you can see in the hand history I called the $11 and turned the Straight Flush if you even look at the table it reads my hand online on the table K-9 straight flush. So imo that means I was still connected when I hit the nuts and for w/e reason couldn't hit call.

I dmed chicagojoey on 2p2 hoping for him to reach out. I remain hopeful obviously not much else i can do other than get this as much exposure as possible. Still sick to my stomach as tonight was literally my first night on their software and just couldn't believe my eyes
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:53 AM   #19
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I'm gonna go to twitter next. I did tell the whole table what the **** happened. Since it affected all of them also. Really hope they do something for everyone... No idea though, doubt anyone gets back to me anytime soon on this
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This is a great idea, I am going to reach out to ChicagoJoey. I'm a fellow chicago guy who still lives here. Hope he can help!
I get why you're upset about this, but having started an NVG thread just minutes after posting in the BOL forum, do you think maybe you should give them more than an hour or so on a Friday night before continuing on to Twitter and ChicagoJoey? Honestly, I think this thread should be locked and/or moved to the BOL forum, but I'll let NVG mods decide that.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:59 AM   #20
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I get why you're upset about this, but having started an NVG thread just minutes after posting in the BOL forum, do you think maybe you should give them more than an hour or so on a Friday night before continuing on to Twitter and ChicagoJoey? Honestly, I think this thread should be locked and/or moved to the BOL forum, but I'll let NVG mods decide that.
You are probably 100% correct. My initial reaction was anger and wtf need to get this out there as fast as possible. Since I have cooled off I have not called them scammers or anything and just put the info out there. I am hopeful they reach back out to me soon. If mods want to lock this up for the time being I am completely ok w/ whatever you guys decide to do.

Thanks everyone for the responses.. Hope to run good here
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:03 AM   #21
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Re: Potentially scammed out of BBJ @ Betonline (Video of Hand History and proof in thread)

Good luck.

Given your response, I will lock this up for now, but if you find you're not getting anywhere you could use the post report feature (red triangle to the left of every post) and request it be reopened. It might end up being moved over to Internet Poker, which is where threads like this usually belong, if not in the BOL forum.
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Old 05-23-2020, 04:33 AM   #22
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OP wanted me to post a link to a new thread he created in the BOL forum:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...proof-1770508/
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