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They ended day 1a with about 275 players of over 2600. Depending on how many they get for day 1b, and the speed in which they bust, isn't it possible that some of the day 1a bustouts were already in the money?

Am I missing something here?

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05-30-2010 , 05:30 AM

spooky shadows

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explain further please

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05-30-2010 , 05:35 AM

doublejoker

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Let's say they get 2500 more on 1b. They bust slightly faster.

The total would be 5100 with 510 paid. That means the money bubble and hand for hand would hit at around 240 left on day 1b. The day 1a bustouts can never get to hand for hand, and some may have made the money depending upon how many bust in 1b

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05-30-2010 , 05:36 AM

bcisback

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Well 275 left is still above the 10% mark and I imagine if the natural stopping point will be above the ten% mark tomorrow too so it shouldn't be an issue.

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05-30-2010 , 05:37 AM

doublejoker

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They have to play the same number of levels, not to the same number of players.

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05-30-2010 , 05:43 AM

SirGaribaldi

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let me guess, u finished as 276?

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05-30-2010 , 05:53 AM

HeyIzDro

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Allen may be on to something. I think he means the 275 out of 2600+ finished day 1A. Right now there predicting Day 1B (Atleast on 2+2) at a little over 1k in the mtt section. Pokernews says its gonna get over 6k. Ill say it gets 1500 tommorow making a 4100 person feild. I dont know the structure but assuming there paying 10% and if todays goes at the pace and bustout rate Day 1A did some guys from day 1A mighta cashed. If Day 1B gets same amount of runners (Could Happen) same bustout rate puts them at 550 and I believe (Im not certain) a few extra would be in the money from previous days. Who knows though depends on everything from today!

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05-30-2010 , 05:56 AM

Poopy_Pants

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no your right. could be a fk up, wait and see

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05-30-2010 , 06:01 AM

ImportTax

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This is quite interesting.... Great start to the series. Bet they are praying for some slow play and hoping for low numbers to bust in day 1b

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05-30-2010 , 06:02 AM

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Considering the mincash will be around $2000, I sure wouldn't want to be one of the last bustouts from 1a.

What they should have done was play down to 15%, then play to that exact level on day 1b.

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05-30-2010 , 06:03 AM

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ASPoker8

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Allen is right. My entire table was talking about this for the last ~2 levels.

Honestly, I think its pretty simple. Incompetent people get hired to huge jobs with huge responsibilities all the time. It sucks. People are stupid.

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05-30-2010 , 06:22 AM

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The Detonator

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This theory plays in my head for every multiple day 1 events I enter

I assume its happened before and will happen again

Nothing can be done, I guess everyone who makes day2 gets a great suprise to find they start play in the money

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05-30-2010 , 06:23 AM

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LukeChadwick

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Is Harrah's obligated to pay out 10% of the field? if not, they can just pay out 5% and it'll be ok right?

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05-30-2010 , 06:41 AM

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Clayton

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I'm in the moneyyyyyy [/song]

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05-30-2010 , 06:44 AM

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duh

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05-30-2010 , 06:47 AM

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Clayton

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^^ i laughed

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05-30-2010 , 06:48 AM

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DrInfinity

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Originally Posted by LukeChadwick

Is Harrah's obligated to pay out 10% of the field? if not, they can just pay out 5% and it'll be ok right?

Good question.. Anyone knows this?

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05-30-2010 , 06:51 AM

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doublejoker

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They have to pay the number they advertise. Some people wouldn't have played if they knew beforehand that only 5% cash.

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05-30-2010 , 06:59 AM

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LukeChadwick

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

They have to pay the number they advertise. Some people wouldn't have played if they knew beforehand that only 5% cash.

Is the 10% payout actually advertised by the WSOP ppl?

*not trying to nit-pick you, but genuinely curious*

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05-30-2010 , 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeChadwick

Is Harrah's obligated to pay out 10% of the field? if not, they can just pay out 5% and it'll be ok right?

This is very good thinking, in fact, Harrah's should change it to a winner take all tourney. $4million dollar swing HU imo.

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05-30-2010 , 08:12 AM

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I don't think the payouts are necessarily standardized. I don't think there's anything that says they HAVE to pay out 10%. If they end up paying out to everyone that makes it to day 2 and it ends up being 8.2% of the field or something then that's the way the ball bounces.

It's still kind of weird and inappropriate. But if they haven't announced the payout structure for the tournament yet then I don't know why they would have to stay at 10% (especially since it seems like it might be impossible anyway)

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05-30-2010 , 08:25 AM

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It would help if they put the 2010 payout structure online, which it appears they haven't at this time.

Using the 2009 payout structure, if the entrants falls between 2399 and 2648 on Sunday, then the field will pay out 522 spots.

If the field is 2649 to 2898, then it will pay out 549 spots.