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12-09-2014 , 06:03 AM
Yea, I'm not sure its such a good idea to be logging in to view a private youtube video from a thread thats about DDOS/Cheating..............
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12-10-2014 , 12:30 AM
yea, rainman attacked carbon
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12-12-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
during this disconnect the user actually disconnects and loses the pot. other guy got one more raise/shove in at last second to take the pot.
Maybe a related question. Just happened in a cash game, I was the last aggressor in 2 big pots and my internet disconnected. It appears from the hand histories that everyone folded, but the pot was not returned to me - WTF?

This is 100nl, so I don't think it is related to a DDOS attack, but I really am just wondering what the **** the site's policy is on disconnections when no one calls your bet? Who got the pot? The site? I emailed support, but yeah, if anyone knows I would really appreciate it, a bit on tilt obvs.
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12-12-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TONZ
wow I actually played a hand with this guy on December 5th.

Hero Hole Cards: Kd,Kc,As,Js

Hero Raises $6.00

L4ss3m4jj4n Raises $21.00

xxxx Folds

xxxx Folds

Hero Raises $66.00

L4ss3m4jj4n Raises $111.00

DISCONNECT


I had a dollar behind so obviously I'm not folding. I emailed Carbon for a refund because everyone got disconnected and they gave me my $66 back.

Ahh, ok. I will demand those pots be returned to me. I find it insane if their default is that no one "wins" the pot.

Anyone recommend another site to play on that's not Merge?
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12-15-2014 , 12:53 AM
bump

The ACR millons was cancelled today after 4.5 hours. I watched the ACR CEO live broadcast, he said the DOS/DDOS attack targeted this tournament after leaving the site alone for a couple of days.

This is after a indvidual player was outed using DOS for his advantage in a Merge tournaments.

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The person or persons who are doing this have inredible power and perhaps are testing their methods on "gray" poker sites who so far have been totally unable to stop them.

Imagine if they moved on to Chase, Citibank or any ".gov" web sites. Not to be alarmist but this could be the beginning of a major theat to the web not just online poker.

Please share with ITT professionals and media. This is being discussed in several threads in the Internet Poker but I hope the Mods can leave this thread open to be accessable to the non internet poker community.
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12-15-2014 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
bump

The ACR millons was cancelled today after 4.5 hours. I watched the ACR CEO live broadcast, he said the DOS/DDOS attack targeted this tournament after leaving the site alone for a couple of days.

This is after a indvidual player was outed using DOS for his advantage in a Merge tournaments.

View:

The person or persons who are doing this have inredible power and perhaps are testing their methods on "gray" poker sites who so far have been totally unable to stop them.

Imagine if they moved on to Chase, Citibank or any ".gov" web sites. Not to be alarmist but this could be the beginning of a major theat to the web not just online poker.

Please share with ITT professionals and media. This is being discussed in several threads in the Internet Poker but I hope the Mods can leave this thread open to be accessable to the non internet poker community.
This is kind of BS of WPN to say. IMO this statement confirms they are lieing now or have been lieing in the past. They have stood firmly in the past that their own server issues are internal not related to any outside attackers. This was reinforced as recently as a day after last Sunday in the forums by a WPN rep in reply to a post I made. Now they are switching stances and blaming an attacker. Something stinks.
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12-15-2014 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuce2High
This is kind of BS of WPN to say. IMO this statement confirms they are lieing now or have been lieing in the past. They have stood firmly in the past that their own server issues are internal not related to any outside attackers. This was reinforced as recently as a day after last Sunday in the forums by a WPN rep in reply to a post I made. Now they are switching stances and blaming an attacker. Something stinks.

Before we jump to conclusion to what actually happen @ ACR, remember that the disconnect problems @ Merge start as 15min DC before it start to escalate into a fullsize attack on Merge network. Maybe whatever group were just testing their method before moving on to attacking ACR, they are probably testing out the strength and weakness in the Online Operator security.
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12-15-2014 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuce2High
This is kind of BS of WPN to say. IMO this statement confirms they are lieing now or have been lieing in the past. They have stood firmly in the past that their own server issues are internal not related to any outside attackers. This was reinforced as recently as a day after last Sunday in the forums by a WPN rep in reply to a post I made. Now they are switching stances and blaming an attacker. Something stinks.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Diamond
Before we jump to conclusion to what actually happen @ ACR, remember that the disconnect problems @ Merge start as 15min DC before it start to escalate into a fullsize attack on Merge network. Maybe whatever group were just testing their method before moving on to attacking ACR, they are probably testing out the strength and weakness in the Online Operator security.
So far at least 8 poker sites have been attacked.

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Kahn
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12-15-2014 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
WPN doesn't have this problem and the OSS series is currently running.
One mirrion guarantee on the 14th bty
oh rlly
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12-15-2014 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuce2High
This is kind of BS of WPN to say. IMO this statement confirms they are lieing now or have been lieing in the past. They have stood firmly in the past that their own server issues are internal not related to any outside attackers. This was reinforced as recently as a day after last Sunday in the forums by a WPN rep in reply to a post I made. Now they are switching stances and blaming an attacker. Something stinks.
i don't say it's right, to lie about it, but imo it's good company policy, to don't say too much and check the leaks first. if a support worker then tells 'the truth', it's obvious, that they now have to admit it.

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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Imagine if they moved on to Chase, Citibank or any ".gov" web sites. Not to be alarmist but this could be the beginning of a major theat to the web not just online poker.

Please share with ITT professionals and media. This is being discussed in several threads in the Internet Poker but I hope the Mods can leave this thread open to be accessable to the non internet poker community.
wut? you mentioned Citibank - r u afraid, that the hacker might 'download' ur money ^^

u do realize, that attacks via the internet aren't new and that a DDoS isn't even a major problem (compared to other things) ... seriously, check out computer news, major companies haven been attacked before and it would be a surprise, if it would not happen again
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12-15-2014 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
i don't say it's right, to lie about it, but imo it's good company policy, to don't say too much and check the leaks first. if a support worker then tells 'the truth', it's obvious, that they now have to admit it.



wut? you mentioned Citibank - r u afraid, that the hacker might 'download' ur money ^^

u do realize, that attacks via the internet aren't new and that a DDoS isn't even a major problem (compared to other things) ... seriously, check out computer news, major companies haven been attacked before and it would be a surprise, if it would not happen again

Sorry, I don t speak jive.

But imagine if everyone logged into their BOA account today and their balances were zero.
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12-15-2014 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Sorry, I don t speak jive.

But imagine if everyone logged into their BOA account today and their balances were zero.
Unless it was some kind of fire sale, there is deposit insurance to replace some of the money.

Last edited by Doc T River; 12-15-2014 at 12:58 PM. Reason: would be one time I am glad I am poor.
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12-15-2014 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner

Imagine if they moved on to Chase, Citibank or any ".gov" web sites. Not to be alarmist but this could be the beginning of a major theat to the web not just online poker.
i'd hope that the banks have much better security then americas card room. lets face it the software completely sucks on that site and same with a lot of these other poker sites which have buggy clients. pokerstars is the closest thing to running pure and it now is raising rake and adapting to a new business model to the detriment of the professional poker player.


i wouldn't worry about whoever is responsible for these hacks to be on the same skill for hacking a national bank or government site, i think those have much better security systems because the potential for damage or profiting off someones nest egg is much higher.
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12-15-2014 , 02:53 PM
This is happening just for someone's entertainment or because they have an objective. If for an objective, what does someone think it is?
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12-15-2014 , 03:27 PM
at 1st i thought extorting e-protection money.
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12-15-2014 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuce2High
This is kind of BS of WPN to say. IMO this statement confirms they are lieing now or have been lieing in the past. They have stood firmly in the past that their own server issues are internal not related to any outside attackers. This was reinforced as recently as a day after last Sunday in the forums by a WPN rep in reply to a post I made. Now they are switching stances and blaming an attacker. Something stinks.
It seems obvious to me that there's been a concerted effort underway.

Multiple DFS sites have been hit on Sundays (right before their big tourneys go off)
Multiple Poker sites have been hit on Sundays (as the big MTTs start to go off)

IMO, it's someone with intrinsic knowledge of these communities.

It would've been nice for the sites to be transparent about it, but I can understand why they wouldn't be. Often in situations like this the DDoSers ask for ransom to stop/plug the attack, and it's obviously bad precedent to discuss it in public either way.
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12-27-2014 , 08:38 AM
What sites have problems?

I heard Winning network had a problem once and Merge network seems to have problems with DDoS attacks for some time. What other networks have problems with this?
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01-04-2015 , 06:53 AM
Hope they can sort it out. I like playing at acr
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01-26-2015 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Sorry, I don t speak jive.

But imagine if everyone logged into their BOA account today and their balances were zero.
uh that anarchy would be awesome bring it on. I'm stacked in gold and drugs.

seriously though people have been Ddosing since the beginning of computers. I remember getting DDosed playing counter-strike 15years ago
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