i hope they can figure out to return fpps for all limits, and possibly increase rakeback slightly?
28-30% for supernovas compared to around 45% seems like a big hit, how about 37% or smth?
one time or smth

http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room...pute-over-vip/

It would be great if they got something out of Amaya, but sadly I am not hopeful.

Dani Stern
‏@TheRealAnsky

Yes we will be signing NDAs. However it will only pertain to specific data that is shown to us, and not the general content of the meeting.

Were only those 3 at the meeting reppresenting the boycott group and talking for all or was some1 from russia community too?

That's fair enough (presumably they will have be shown sensitive info Amaya would not want their competitors to see). At least we will get to hear about the "general content" of the meeting, which presumably was Amaya telling us all to go f ourselves .

Agreed, I think we should send a TAG, a LAG, a nit and a fish from every country

+1

Dani Stern ‏@TheRealAnsky 9 hours ago

Wouldn't want to go back on a promise or anything...

Getting them to sign an NDA was brilliant - it's a prefect way to silence your critics under the guise of sharing proprietary information with them. Can you imagine union leaders signing an NDA so that they can't share anything with their membership? How stupid can you be.

Regardless of "data" Amaya are still borderline criminal in the way they advertised "continuing as a SNE" benefits then reneging on them after 11/12 months had passed.

I hope they took Amaya to task over this and can at least share the response they got on that front, if not the actual site data.

Amaya has given everyone the middle finger since November. Do you realistically believe anything constructive is going to come out of this? They have invited the 3 main whingers in this whole episode. Surely this is to be able to say 'we said we would do a player meeting' and tick that box. It's giving the boys a chance to whinge in private and cover DNegs for his promise of a player meeting as one of his 'achievements' so that he can justify hanging on to the mill-ball salary which he was never going to give up.

they are probably asking themself "why didn't we read it before signing"
Sign a NDA the same day before the start of the meeting always a bad idea...

Pretty sure nda's were standard at the pre-amaya meetings as well. I do hope they can get something out of it.
One can wish right?

I don't see any good coming out of this.
I imagine it was amaya showing data to try convince these guys it had to done, thus convincing the poker community.

The main and really the only thing that group should have been discussing was SNE broken promise.

With no reasonable answer to that, what the hell else matters.

I do hope that was the attitude the players brought into the meeting. At least that it was the priority and insisting on discussion of that topic first.

Quick clarification on the NDA stuff:

The reason for the NDA is that they showed us data which could influence trading. If we breach the NDA we're in trouble with the SEC not with Amaya.

We did talk a lot about the broken promise with respect to SN/SNE. Unfortunately, I wouldn't say we heard anything new or made any progress on that front.

Excellent!!!

Ike, overall, would you call it time well spent?

Ike, influence trading in what way? Did you see something bearish?

no need to say everybody knows that amaya stocks are trash

Its game over for the pros they dont wont them. SIMPLE.

Very interesting:

http://calvinayre.com/2016/01/21/pok...dio-interview/

`I genuinely believe that beyond this hiccup, based on the knowledge I have, not only will the company, and ecosystem do better in 2016, but poker in general will. Any trends that players will see regarding game toughness, they will change.`

The problem here is that the main direction it seems Amaya is working`to improve ecosystem and for company to do better` on is to create as many lower edge tournaments possible to offer (whatever you call them, spin&go, or jackpot poker etc), and pretty much complete kill off cash game traffic.
There has already been ridiculous decline since spins where introduced 1 year ago (has nothing to do with year to year decline, but pretty much with Site`s new line/approach). Now, they also increase rake and get rid of lots of bonuses. Who knows whats their next step `for the greater good`.
Seems like there will be at most 5-8 games of nl100 or pl100 running in 2017 (same goes for nr of entrants for zoom).

Thats a big issue.