Why?
Tell me what concepts I do not know

And what are you going to do about it?

Oh that's right, you can't do anything. It's called a free market. Pokerstars can change their vip program whenever they wish. Don't like it? Tough. Go play somewhere else.

Cash game traffic declined yoy because more people are playing tournament, especially Spin & Go. This has been mentioned in a number of places.

The actual number of players on stars is up, not down, yoy.

I find it amusing how stars keeps banging on about balancing the ecosystem and the changes been "Rec" friendly.
I'm a rec, the changes considerably lowered my RB. The worst part is the shiny veil pokerstars is trying to lay over all the changes.

The only ones benefitting from these changes are share holders. Capitalism at its finest.

Withdraw your money. Play elsewhere. This Is my advice.
Oh and Matthew, your PR is terrible. If your gonna come in this thread and only answer questions that suit you then you mayaswell not bother. Pathetic.

its not his job to debate with you about the changes.

It should be. PR isn't about discussing what suits you, its about discussing what the public want. I think your wrong.

this is lee jones's job and he had already said what he have to say.

Where can you see those tournament numbers? It is a major failing of PokerScout that they don't track Stars' tournaments. As I write this the 7 day average is back down to 17k.

So you're saying on average over 2k players more than last year are playing Spin n goes at any given time of day? If traffic is up significantly enough for you to mention it let's say the yoy average Spin n go traffic increase is 3k. So they just added as many players to Spin n goes over the last year as play on 888's site?

Any links would be greatly appreciated.

edit: also it would be a mistake to conflate an increase in tournament traffic driven solely by a new casino-like offering with an increase in cash game traffic. They are two quite different things and as I said above I believe that sort of growth will prove self limiting. Maybe they can see once off increases here and there as they convert some of their player base to pit junkies but that process won't extend indefinitely. The drop in cash game traffic is still a bad development no matter how you spin it and frankly I'm quite skeptical they actually increased tournament traffic by such large numbers.

If any SNE sued Amaya they'd likely win. Free markets and a functioning civil justice system normally go hand-in-hand.

Really?

No mention of any lawsuit's planned or underway in these threads. I wonder why.

It looks like big tournament increases actually could be possible looking at other sites tournament numbers. Does anyone have any links to good threads, articles or websites regarding PS tournament traffic? It seems to be pretty sparsely covered.

Lawsuits are expensive, particularly for individuals.

Not if they win it isn't. You seem to be sure they will win, so what's the problem.

They're expensive whether you win or not. Attorney's fees aren't always recoverable.

In that case, no-one's going to sue, so your point that that they may likely win is irrelevant.

Not sure why a number if them can't get together and pool resources though.

Cause they are all scattered over a bunch of countries and are losing maybe 50K a person on average and litigating something like this would be quite complicated and expensive.

Isn't the difference between a 1st time SNE and a repeat more in the region of $20k under the old rewards system?

So, any talk about what Amaya did as being illegal is just that talk, not fact.

Until someone is actually prepared to pursue legal action it is nothing more than pointless speculation.

No like a poster highlighted above, everybody is scattered and the process would be way too complex, not to mention cost more $$$ than can be retrieved. So ergo, not worth it. Thats not to say it isnt illegal

Until it's proven one way or the other there's nothing to say it is illegal either.

Anything else is just speculation, pure and simple. Why is that so hard to understand?

This is a poker forum, it's perfectly normal to discuss and exchange ideas. What is your point coming in here and screaming that that is wasting time?

hes a pokerstar shill obv.

Just trying to sort fact from fiction buddy.

Screaming? LOL. A bit of an over-reaction don't you think old boy.

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UDnTJcjPhY

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