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Pokerstars Pro Barry Greenstein's house foreclosed nearly 200k owed to bank. Pokerstars Pro Barry Greenstein's house foreclosed nearly 200k owed to bank.

12-20-2012 , 12:29 AM
This is what happens when you win large amounts of cash in tournaments and give it away to charities
12-20-2012 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PLO Degen
This is what happens when you win large amounts of cash in tournaments and give it away to charities
Followed by not cashing in tournaments for a long time.
12-20-2012 , 12:57 AM
Maybe the house had a ghost and Barry didn't want a house with a ghost.
12-20-2012 , 01:05 AM
OP, the respect you show for your favorite poker player is almost fascinating.
12-20-2012 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by OJsBludyNife
Maybe the house had a ghost and Barry didn't want a house with a ghost.
this is the most likely reason for what has happened - very common occurrence these days. carry on.
12-20-2012 , 01:58 AM
This is only speculation and really not even referring to Barry, it is just the way things are.

Google Las Vegas real estate and look at the history of the values of homes. Everything is down 40% or more. High end homes drop faster in value.

If you owe a lot more on the home than what it is worth there are certain math calculations you need to make for your net worth and what the consequences are if you walk. It is a black and white decision. I am sure Barry knows math.

If I owned a home that was crashing in value and couldn't see the sense in holding on to it I would definitely let it go, especially when the bankers caused the crash in the first place. Why pay for thier screw up. And to add to it, the government takes away the online income.

Take some time to hide some cash and let the home slide. It is a business decision. Nothing to do with being broke.

People like Barry are fighting back. If this is his case I say, Good Job!!!
12-20-2012 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
He bought the house for $2.55mil only $200k was owed on it. I understand there are reasons to do this but it seems odd.
its most likely a second or 3rd mortgage that is foreclosing on him.
12-20-2012 , 02:40 AM
I think barry has plenty of poker and gambling money. he just doesn't have bill money ,
12-20-2012 , 02:54 AM
oh barry i love you
12-20-2012 , 03:09 AM
These decisions come down to ev. I'm sure Barry made a smart move. Maybe op works for the lender. Anyway the first mortgage lender gets the house, so hey it's not like they come up empty handed.
12-20-2012 , 03:12 AM
I guess Barry's website is down. I wanted to see that great page where he rates all the other top players and talks about how they are weak in all these areas. I think he gave Phil Hellmuth a low rating. He gave a lot of guys low ratings who still have their houses, I think.
12-20-2012 , 03:18 AM
i always thought barry had dumb money outside of poker didn't he always donate all his winnings to charity? I'm guessing he could use that monies now
12-20-2012 , 03:23 AM
Y PHIL IVEY NO GIVE A FRIEND MONEY TO SAVE HIM?
12-20-2012 , 03:28 AM
Phil was being "friendly" until Barry was out of money. Then, it was "Next!"
12-20-2012 , 03:44 AM
in before Barry; all the best robin hood!
12-20-2012 , 04:02 AM
I like the guy... Hope he finds a shelter or something for the Christmas holidays. Winter is a biatch!
12-20-2012 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by McCutter
I guess Barry's website is down. I wanted to see that great page where he rates all the other top players and talks about how they are weak in all these areas. I think he gave Phil Hellmuth a low rating. He gave a lot of guys low ratings who still have their houses, I think.
He wasn't rating them on their thievery skills.
12-20-2012 , 04:21 AM
Vegas real estate took a huge hit during the crash, Barry is most likely underwater on his mortgage and it's simply better financial decision to not pay it.

Or maybe he's broke.
12-20-2012 , 04:41 AM
How disappointing, I suppose even the most likeable and alleged successful poker pro"s really struggle in life - I assume this disregard for money which enables them to get to the top of our game eventually catches up with them.

Next we'll be hearing that Todd and Doyle are living on a trailer park....
12-20-2012 , 04:47 AM
Is the house in Vegas?

I thought he lived in California.

Either way, good luck barryg1.
12-20-2012 , 04:50 AM
At least from the interviews I've heard, it sounds like Barry has a number of properties. Likely, as speculated by some in this thread, this one happened to be so horribly upside-down that he cut his losses.
12-20-2012 , 04:54 AM
As long as they don't come after his underground Asian brothels he'll be fine.
12-20-2012 , 04:55 AM
Theres no way he can be broke, he bought in for 200k on HSP
12-20-2012 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JackStrate
This is only speculation and really not even referring to Barry, it is just the way things are.

Google Las Vegas real estate and look at the history of the values of homes. Everything is down 40% or more. High end homes drop faster in value.

If you owe a lot more on the home than what it is worth there are certain math calculations you need to make for your net worth and what the consequences are if you walk. It is a black and white decision. I am sure Barry knows math.

If I owned a home that was crashing in value and couldn't see the sense in holding on to it I would definitely let it go, especially when the bankers caused the crash in the first place. Why pay for thier screw up. And to add to it, the government takes away the online income.

Take some time to hide some cash and let the home slide. It is a business decision. Nothing to do with being broke.

People like Barry are fighting back. If this is his case I say, Good Job!!!
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Originally Posted by sunders
Vegas real estate took a huge hit during the crash, Barry is most likely underwater on his mortgage and it's simply better financial decision to not pay it.

Or maybe he's broke.
Tards. The house isn't in Vegas. It's in Palos Verdes, California.
12-20-2012 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I anxiously await a small army of posters declaring there's no way Barry can be broke despite knowing absolutely nothing about his actual financial status, using things like the amount he bought in for on HSP as proof, along with another army of posters declaring he's totally busto without any real idea of his financial status either.

Carry on.
His financial troubles have been well known in the HS community. No charity for him it seems when times are tough. Some friends have helped him out, but he's not running good in life.

      
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