What’s up everyone, I am Kyle Lucca and I currently play in the PA market under screen names Bellfort_J0rdan and T0nySoprano. I used to play in NJ as J0rdanBellfort. I am writing this post because Cameron “purelegacy77” Lane has been caught cheating through the GTOwizard fairplay check tool by me and many others. I will send all of the evidence below.

For anyone unfamiliar with the GTO Wizard fairplay check tool, read about it here: https://blog.gtowizard.com/towards-a...ker-ecosystem/

Since the cheating accusations against UrNighmare from two weeks ago, I have been utilizing GTO Wizards fairplay check tool to look up many hands against all kinds of players in the PA pool. Since then, UrNighmare has been cleared by Pokerstars and his account reinstated, all of the accusations against him were a result of many false positives in the GTO Wizard fairplay check. The tool at the time had an extremely high false positive rate before they added more details to the hand lookup like cash/MTT, pot size, and positions. (A false positive means an identical or similar board having been looked up at the same time as a hand that was played, but with different parameters indicating that it wasn't done by anyone involved in the played hand)

Once GTO Wizard updated their tool, false positives became EXTREMELY unlikely on the flop, and probably just about impossible to match a turn or river. Which brings us to my investigation on purelegacy77. I played a short session with him on the morning of 10/4 and I was looking up random hands played between me and other regs, or reg v reg. I pulled two matches on legacy on just the flop with matching hand parameters. This was when Wizard first updated the fairplay tool to include more parameters, and I wasn’t sure yet if false positives were still possible. I decided to just watch legacy play some tables of higher stakes and look up any notable hand. It didn’t take long to get a match to the turn, here is the hand:



This is when I decided to reach out to DidYouNotHearMe (SRV on discord) and get the hand history from him and tell him what was going on. It was obvious after a couple more turn matches that he was 100% searching up the hands, it was just a question of the accuracy of the timestamp on the lookup.





At the time, I considered legacy a close friend of mine and I was giving him the benefit of the doubt in speaking with SRV and my NJ poker friends saying maybe he is searching the hands up IMMEDIATELY after they complete as a study mechanism. Legacy quit his session not long after these two matches and SRV and we decided to just keep it to ourselves and search up more hands later before freaking out and reporting or telling everyone. The fairplay check tool only goes back one week for hand lookups. Legacy had been in Vegas on vacation for the previous week so the only hand history I had with him was the morning and afternoon of 10/4, not much of a sample to find more hands. Later that night legacy logged back in and we collected some more matches:





This is when I decided to test the theory of him looking hands up immediately after they complete. I watched him play a hand and I searched the fairplay check as it was going on…. And I got a match. I clicked enter when the turn was dealt and before the river came, and pulled this match. This hand took place at 0:37 on 10/5.




And then just for good measure I plugged in the river as well:



(Mackdaddy420 is DidYouNotHearMe)



Hand played at around 0:39 on 10/5



Here is one played at a 5K game against iamsmirk at 1:50 on 10/5, another hand I clicked enter on the turn while it was still taking place and got a match.





This was the point of the investigation that I was literally sick to my stomach as I watched him cheat another friend of mine Smirk in a ****ing 5k game!!!!!!!! At the time it was KILLING me wanting to tell smirk what was going on, but I knew that smirk was good friends with legacy and wasn’t sure if he would freak out on legacy after being told he was cheated, leading to legacy withdrawing all of his funds from his account. At this point me and SRV decided it was crucial to report him and keep it to ourselves so that his account gets locked and investigated, and I can only hope that the operators will refund anyone that was cheated out of money.

Here is a couple more hands although I’m sure everyone is getting the idea what is going on here:









No river match, but that’s because the money was all in on the turn LOL









Here is the last hand I will send. At this point I was quitting the tables immediately every time legacy sat down, costing me money but I will not play with a cheater. Just to see if legacy had any resemblance of a soul left in his body I wanted to see if he would personally cheat me, someone who was texting him all week asking him about his Vegas trip, and texting/discord messaging him thousands of messages over the months since I joined the Pennsylvania player pool. I thought he was a good friend of mine. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt though many PA players hated him for his constant **** talking in the chat and his terrible table etiquette. I believe me, Iamsmirk, and MasterEdge were his only friends in the community, and the above hands are proof that he cheated all 3 of us, including smirk at a ****ing 5k game. So here it is, the last hand I will ever play against legacy:





This year legacy quickly rose through the stakes of 50NL to 5KNL, constantly bragging and boasting that he was never coached and was confident by this time next year he will be the best in the state. I will not share any of my private texts or messages with him, but that is the gist of what he was always talking about. I estimate legacy has made anywhere from $100,000 to $200,000 this year and have no idea when he started cheating. Here is one discord message he sent in a PA cash regs discord before he deleted his account all the way back in JANUARY. As far as I’m concerned, cheating in poker is no different than robbing somebody and it blows my mind there is no criminal prosecution.



It is a lesson learned that nobody can be trusted with so much money at stake. As poker players we become numb to the massive amounts of money we throw around, but we all have to be more cautious. There are always going to be scumbags among us, I really doubt legacy was the only cheater in our player pool. Everyone needs to be doing their best to fairplay check big hands and we need to pressure the operators to provide a safer playing environment.

Legacy was cheating almost every single 3BP and 4BP he played against another reg. Who knows how long it was going on for, and I have no idea how Pokerstars or WSOP does not have a system in place to catch such blatant disgusting cheating. It really sucks that as professional players we have to play the game, study the game, and now police the game to make sure we are not being cheated for thousands of dollars. Unfortunately we have to do our best self policing for the time being and maybe try to work with the operators/GTO Wizard to provide input for a better system. For anyone trying to save some time in self policing, the pattern with legacy as I said above was searching up every single 3BP and 4BP against other regs, and I assume other cheaters probably follow a similar pattern.

Legacy was also outcasted from the Starcraft 2 community for cheating in the past, here is the links to an interview about that and his liquipedia page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr96LU5lI4Q

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/PureLegacy

Legacy’s Pokerstars account was locked on 10/6 and under investigation and I can only hope WSOP did the same thing but I don’t have any confirmation. I also find it absurd that the sites never tell us the results of these investigations. I think the only way forward is to have some sort of poker blacklist of players that have been caught cheating so they are never allowed to play anywhere again. It is ridiculous he can just go sign up on ACR or Global and get right back to it cheating people out of their money.

We all put our blood sweat and tears into this game. I am optimistic that the future of online poker is bright as it seems GTO Wizard has a strong commitment to game integrity. I believe some of the operators have partnered with GTO Wizard and they are working on some sort of backend solution to checking hands using mass data analysis. If any GTO Wizard staff or operator is reading this, there needs to be an emphasis placed on searching the 3BPs and 4BPs reg vs reg. If their current systems are just random samples of hands looking at accuracy of play, someone like Legacy is going to slip through the cracks. He was cheating in the most difficult highest EV spots, and playing them damn accurately, but playing very inaccurately in the small EV spots so he is not going to be flagged for playing very accurately overall. If anyone is savvy enough with any poker tracking software I would be curious what % of hands someone VPIPs are reg vs reg 3bp or 4bps, I would assume it is a fairly small %.

What is going to happen when the next competitor to GTO Wizard comes along and says guess what guys, we don’t give a single **** about game integrity and will never work with any operators or give out your data? It will be the end of online poker if these operators don’t get it together. We should all be grateful for the role GTO Wizard is currently taking in terms of game integrity but it is going to have to come down to the operators to catch these guys for the future of online poker.

Alright I've wasted enough time on this, back to the tables. GL everyone and if anyone has any ideas or thoughts about the current state of online poker and cheating please leave them down below.

I mean this is almost as close to definitive proof of cheating that I could imagine. So If I ever see him back on PA stars I will be thoroughly disappointed. I don't find it surprising at all because he was a real scum bag at the table half the time, talking **** and berating plays he disagreed with. Who the hell does that in 2023? Amazing that he was a starcraft cheater as well. As the classic adage goes: once a cheater, always a cheater.

The only thing we can hope for is that he had a lot of money on his stars acct and they were able to seize it for at least a little bit of justice.

-highwarlord

Nice find

What's esp worrying is only the dumbest cheats would use GTO-wiz now. Which makes me wonder how many use other tools that go undetected

How can someone with the name Pure Legacy be a cheater. For sure he must have thought they screen name would throw everyone off forever.

In all seriousness, ban him. Maybe even ban anyone who even knows what GTO wizard is, could only read the first half of OP's post. The rest was a like a foreign language for a laymen like myself. I live in PA and this kind of stuff makes me feel better and better about not even considering playing online at Stars PA.

With enough pushback from public I think there should be a 3 strike ban, any hand that is searched from GTOw whilst in the hand should result in a ban.

Operators should have a deal with gtow that share the database and if it matches the flop /turn/river an automated strike will occur on the account. No investigation warranted. 3 strikes the operator will do a manual investigation of the hand and cyaaa.

Maybe there should a worldwide strike on exactly this. Look how much the strike situation moved gg.

Or we are all stuck with the old fashion name and shame for the absolute airheads that think it’s wise to lose 200k in ev getting banned at 1knl after grinding it up through the stakes.

I'm sure your detective work is quite impressive and thorough. I'm sure you're right that you discovered irrefutable evidence of cheating on the internet. I'm assuming this, because I didn't read your post since I don't really care. I don't have to be told that there are cheaters playing on the poker sites. Of course there are! And I assume there are lots of them. Just accept the fact that if you play pokerz on the intrawebs you are, at some point, and probably most of the time, going to be cheated. It's just a cost of doing business. If you can still win despite being cheated, then keep playing. Otherwise, quit and stop complaining.

that sucks. 2plus2 is gonna be nothing but these threads at some point.

GTOWiz specifically having a lookup tool will be pretty much meaningless as more of these tools become available. Kinda crazy he would use GTOwiz knowing it has the lookup feature and just hope no one checks

edit: can I join that PA cash regs discord? Your dms are turned off because new account

Thanks for your 2 cents. This is something PureLegacy himself would say in the thread. Are you friends with him or have a piece of him or something? What kind of person comes online just to say "there's always going to be cheaters online, just deal with it"? This is the exact type of mentality that creates a status quo amongst other people reading this that continue to drive people away from online, when really, the fact of the matter is, that most people don't cheat in general, and the few outliers that do, spoil the fun for the rest of us.

How about maybe adding something to the conversation and be more proactive as to how to create a better environment for recreational players that could potentially hear about this news and start asking questions about the authenticity of some of these big time online operators?

I don't understand the subtle hate on OP. He wants to get the word out about a cheater and you are making it sound like he shouldn't do that. If you act this way towards the people trying to expose cheaters then you may deter someone else from posting about a cheater in the future.

We all understand there are cheaters in both online and live poker. There are more people being ethical then not (I hope anyways). Purelegacy is not one of the ethical players and that should be outed here and anywhere else poker players consume content.

Wow, hell of a job here Kyle. Appreciate all the hard work that went into discovering and outing him as a cheat. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s just the tip of the iceberg for rta cheats in our pool. I fear this news is also going to hurt our pool considerably after more recreational players hear about this. Just terrible stuff all around really.

PureLegacy has been a thorn in my side all year (most losses to him 2023 at 200nl and second overall for all stakes). Most notably, he has the greatest relative disparity of 20-50bb pot loss/win ratio compared to all the other regs I’ve faced by far. Very indicative of cheating in 3bp.

I’ve attached some texts about him from this year from a StarsPA group chat of mine that show just how bewildered I was by the stakes/line ups he was playing and just how many tough spots I always found myself in v him in 3b and 4b pots.

This post is unreal because I don’t think he actually is trying to troll that’s just his actual personality.

Yep

Yea just wait until 2p2 is overrun by threads from paranoid losers who think the only reason they're losing is because of cheats and rigged sites.

That already exists and it's reddit.com/r/poker

Hi Guys!
I'm a bit new to the poker world but I play a lot of sc2 and know about PureLegacy history.
Could someone explain actually how was he cheating? I don't understand where is the issue and what is he doing!

Thanks!

Hi Julimen,

This player By the name of Cameron lane cheated other players in his pool by checking a solver real-time and playing as per the solver. GTO wizard offer service where you can check and see if anyone else has looked up the exact hand in a recent time. So OP has evidence above of exactly that.

@julimen5

He basically has a bot telling him what to do/how to play. He can plug in the board and his holding and the bot will tell him the most profitable way to play the hand.

If you play on chess.com you know how you can analyze hands after the game is over? well pure legacy is doing that but DURING THE HAND...

That purelegacy sounds like a real ahole and as op mentioned was a chronic cheater in the SC community but let's wait for the investigation to complete before you guys get your pitchforks out. From what I heard the fair play check has been improved.

Wait, people still play online poker? Seems boring and a significantly more difficult of achieving financial independence than other ways. At least in the US.

Good writeup, leaves little room for doubt.

Two things though: never, ever be surprised when a poker friend cheats/steals/lies to your face, and the poker community overall is far too naive with respect to RTA.

In the chess world, any public online tournament with fifty dollars at stake could not ever function without two cameras livestreaming every single player to a team of moderators, one behind their back and pointing at their screen and one webcam following their eyes. Even then it would be completely trivial to cheat. In poker, solvers don't guarantee instant victory like they do in chess and are a bit more limited (computational time, less effective in non-gto lines), but the fact that online poker is not absolutely overrun with RTA users is pretty shocking to me.

A month or two ago, Jeremiah Williams would rant about how RTA poses absolutely no threat whatsoever to online poker for many reasons. Now he has dropped down 4 stakes because of confirmed cheaters in his pool that are still playing actively with no punishment. The more likely case is that cheating is much harder to prove, and persists far more than most imagine among regs. Only the dumbest and most arrogant have been caught by the GTOwiz fair play check in these early stages. You think no one can come up with a fast custom solver or AI or custom library which would have no hope of ever fair-play checking?

Never underestimate the depravity of a man's ego. It's not just the 50nl kid who jumps to crushing 5k in a few months who is cheating. I guarantee you will find well respected, hardworking high stakes regs getting caught cheating in the future. There are many chess grandmasters, top 100 in the world who have been confirmed cheating and admitted to it. A game where you must study tens of thousands of hours and be a literal genius to achieve such status and they still can't help but cheat against their peers once in a while, with money and official rating on the line. Grandmasters have cheated OTB and will look their opponent in the eye, shake their hand, and then screw them over. And those are the ones who have been caught. Any real poker high stakes expert could figure out how to cheat completely undetected. Not to mention online poker is way less personal with very little respect for opposition or the game itself. Many (most) regs see poker as a means of taking money from stupid people through basically any means.

Live poker seems far more boring IMO

So what's stopping someone from railing and solving certain player's hands and getting him in trouble?

There has to be a way that wizard and stars can compare the times a player is using both of their products. I don't see why stars couldn't have some way to block people opening gtowiz while playing the way they do with equilab or whatever

If you are sitting at a 9 person table and 25% of people cheat on average there are two cheaters at the table. I believe most do not cheat as you need enough fish to feed the cheaters, the "honest" sharks, and the website but that is far from "the few outliers" you are pitching. Best advice to rec players is do not play online assuming you care about giving advice that is good for them. Far too easy to be cheated.

Equilab is a program that runs locally on your PC. GTOWizard is a website you access through an internet browser.