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Originally Posted by *CHOMP
I call BS on Dylan. No bug in the history of Pokerstars bugs has ever favoured players and positive payouts.
Hi *CHOMP,
This isn't true. Not for PokerStars and not for a lot of the other sites that are well known within the poker playing community. But I can relate to the over-generalizing to express frustration, vent, or hold some type of resentment towards x-poker thing, because I've found myself doing the same in some of my posts here -- and I haven't really been an online poker player for years.
I think it's in the best interests of posters/readers here (including myself) to recognize that genuine player feedback
is promoted on this forum and other outlets. And that there
are reasonable methods of communication available to progress discussion/debate on topics that raise legitimate concerns in the "poker world."
For some of us who have been along for the post-BF online poker ride and experienced the corresponding friction -- maybe we should make an effort to not generalize negative thoughts out of frustration when expressing a complaint/concern. That way more views can be liberally expressed without posters fearing they'll get raked over the coals socially if what they say happens to not jive with what somebody else thinks.
Like I said, I'm guilty of this myself. And although the generalized griping may be therapeutic for us at times, I wonder if we might want to reign-in some of it so that we don't come off as little more than butthurt grumps who -- due at least in part to our own needs for attention/validation -- wind up stepping over other feedback that doesn't regurgitate these ingrained negative feelings, and therefore can be far superior in the informative value it provides to those who frequent these boards.
Yes, PokerStars or whoever was at the wheel during the early AmayaStars days
did engage in this "generally negative" type of behavior -- often. And
yes, those of us who still hold some type of resentment (truly a vocal minority these days?)
are still upset about it, and
can make an excuse that
THEY STARTED IT I suppose. But I'm not really sure it affects newer players that much either way?
I'm glad to see an official PokerStars rep ITT, and hope this type of communication continues. Not only here but on other platforms. So let's try to be more precise in our observations -- a bit more considerate -- and see if that extends a value to the more casual crowd too?
To the OP:
I have some biased, negative opinions about "dynamic pricing" schemes that are currently being used in the video game industry, but from what I grasp about the "Chests" -- they're a method to selectively reward customer loyalty or the personalized value a company such as Stars perceives that each customer provides it? Much like coupon mechanisms in supermarkets? That could theoretically provide either a
benefit or
burden to x-customer? Depending?
If that's the case -- and if a company perceives you to provide a
lesser justification to receive/be eligible for certain rewards -- then is that really "misleading" certain "lower value" players? Or rather just the company's way to ensure its most valued consumers receive the best benefits from such
discounts,
loyalty rewards, or other incentives?
Generally speaking, I don't believe such systems are really a
good thing to hook up to the online gambling industry, particularly due to the new GDPR guidelines that enable players in certain regions to request and obtain the information that is accrued on them.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-ultimate-team
What this means is that these consumer "data points" that loyalty systems may utilize to determine how their players are rewarded
will continue to get aired publicly and eventually
will circulate to more customers who make real money purchases online in any fashion. But
especially the "gambling" industry. And I believe the industry as a whole -- but
specifically PokerStars -- should really consider how such rewards schemes may play out in the public eye once more casual online consumers are tipped-off to how much info companies have on them, and how it's stored or used to determine a final cost of goods/services.
I hope this helps, and am interested in others' views. Please note that there are other individuals, many of whom work in the industry -- who would be
much more qualified to progress this discussion. I'm no expert, just a person who has somewhat researched this topic. Thanks for reading.
Last edited by dhubermex; 12-13-2018 at 08:55 PM.