I can't even play zoom as I find it slow when am big blind and can't insta fold. Maybe am a simpleton but more then one table just takes the fun out of poker for me.

3 man hypers are the only game that run fast and it's easy to get quick read on players without having to buy and learn the latest HUD programs.

I loved everleaf network as it seem you always had at least one maniac on every table pushing the action and some were decent players who could run over the table and wake up with decent hand when a player tried to go toe to toe with them.

in before capped to 2 tables

4 is terrible enough.. 6 would be so much better

Can you 4 table cash while infinite tabling tournaments?

I used to play exclusively reg tables before they limited it to 4, because with table selecting correctly u could have some very profitable games, and also there was better table dynamics between players.
If I see that the Zoom pool is kinda dry (boring tight abc regs mainly, with a few recs on the side) I might open up some reg tables and like 1 Zoom table to not fall a sleep.

My biggest issue with this table limit is how hard it is to switch tables. If I have 4 tables already running, I might still join a few wait lists as back up. Now lets say 1 of my tables got kinda reg filled and I get the message that I can join a new one.
--> I have to be out of action to be able to sit at new table, so even tho I already folded, their stupid program still thinks I am siting at that table until the hand is finished.
--> This means that the new table usually have a new player joining for a good minute, if he actually doesn't time out.

Not to mention that sometimes the message window for joining new table randomly disappears, and then you are f*cked because:
-you can't unjoin the list until the timer is done (it will say "you did not answer in time or smg").
-and it also bugs the rest of ur waiting lists, so the next time there is a seat available at an other table it won't even alert you, it will just say you did not answer in time" again.

Solution is
A: kill PS with task manager at the cost of losing ur latest notes on players. (also means that u will dc from the table, so others have to wait some time again on you, especially if you are in a hand)
B: exit PS but then it takes you out of all ur tables, which is even worse.

While I do agree that reg tables are softer, because of the table limit, I do not agree that it makes games any quicker with all this nonsense that you or others have to deal just to get on a table.

6 tables would be indeed better, but that would make some regs happy, and that is not something Stars does nowadays.
Well zoom is very soft these days anyway so I rather open 3 of those to grind even if my WR is not as good as it would be on reg tables. It just doesn't worth the hassle .

I highlighted the part where u did what Stars was hoping for/expected. More Rake is better.

Wr doesn't really matter only thing that matters is hourly.

if star wanted more people to zoom they would lower it to 3 soon

they want more people at party, 888 and asian sites apparently
these ridiculous table caps, no rb and every evening the software is lagging because it cant handle a bit of volume no more

But stars is the only site with leading security to tackle the bots, potential cheats and has the most consistent large player pools and MTT guarantees. The pros will not go anywhere I think. There's no where else to go that matches stars for the average pro.

lol, stars let russians script every day without consequences

i get it for mtts but for everything else its just terrible , it really is 95% ukraine belarus russia these days, especially on small and midstakes

Actually they are trying to push regs out and keep the recs playing slots and other -ev games while sometimes playing some poker. The way the client is being made worse and worse for multitabling it's made more for players who likes shiny things and animations. If you play there just need to suck it up and enjoy the good games and play when the games are good.

Stars like regs. Biggest part of rake paid are regs money. They would hate lose this money.

Stars want make fishs lose slowly and that is why they want make regs life harder. They abuse on their rules because they realize poker pros are dumb.

If all regs stop playing at stars when they cut SNE no doubt they would re-evaluate their cut SNE. If all regs stop playing at stars when they cap tables no doubt they would re-evaluate.

If stars had to choose between regs and fishs they choose fishs because they know fishs bring regs however they know they can not lose all regs.

IMO stars should ban Hud and make 24 tables cap again. Fishs will be happy because no software and regs can grind many tables. It is interesting because no hud will put an imaginary cap tables because no one can grind 24 tables without hud.

The ecosystem dynamics are more complex than this. This is like saying, "Partypoker wants regs makes 40% RB because Partypoker regs smart." There are reasons why people choose 1% chest rakeback and it's not because "Partypoker regs smart" or "Pokerstars realize poker pros are dumb."

Why would a site want to limit the number of tables a single player can sit at simultaneously? More tables running = more rake.

Seriously Derek?

There's some value in them managing the ecosystem provided they don't ludicrously micromanage things and make subtle changes every day. People underestimate the importance of recreational players having a good time while playing.

More importantly it makes eastern europe piece of sheet grinders life harder. Can imagine the stress levels sergeis have when they can't 24 table NL5 anymore.

I understand that they mass multitabled in order to make an income which is somewhat decent in their countries but they were destroying games. Limiting tables was an important business decision for the longevity of the games.

No it is not . The diference is they are mass multitatabling diferent sites at same time or multitaabling zoom .

I played average 800 hands hour at stars before limit tables . Now iam playing 750. Almost same .

I do not know why I write this threads lol

think about is, you cant play a fifth normal table, but you can add 8 zoom tables

they dont care about the speed or number of tables, they want you playing zoom where rake/hour is more and there is a lower winrate so you have to play more which means more rake in general

Your winrate is the most important stat. I bet it has dropped on stars.

My point is recs don't play on zoom as much. Zoom has become the accepted pool for regs to play and as a result longevity of non-zoom players funds aren't diminished as quickly because of mass multitablers. It also improves the health of those games as more money is passed around from rec to rec meaning stars collect more rake as a result (barely any recs withdraw). It's a great change. Let the regs battle on zoom.

I hadn't considered that. I guess they are winning from both angles.

you play 750 hands an hour playing zoom or 4tabling without zoom? the latter sounds impossible

Nope. Your hourly is the only thing that matters.

Nope. Playing stars + others sites on the side you can pretty easily get that.

Nope. Back in the day they used to downsize the ammount of tables you can play if you were slowing the game taking too much time making decisions.

This. Allso other lower wr formats like spins. There are allways some spinraces running when they offer basically never anything for cash. Even for players like me who has played less than ten spins ever.