Wait, so it doesn't affect Zoom tables? Who even plays regular cash tables anyway? (Except for high stakes)

Those who want to have bigger winrate and lower variance.

I think it makes more sense to play live if you're only going to play one table, as for it to be worth it in hourly earnings you need to be playing at reasonably high stakes, and those stakes are going to be dramatically more difficult than they would be live. Granted, if you're not a winning player now you can certainly benefit from focusing on less and minimizing losses, but why play 1 table when you can play 2?

Imo you need to play way more than a round before leaving the table at fresh. If you mean by a round paying the blinds once. Haven't played much fresh reg tables but I believe they have a time you need to play and if you don't you will get a time penalty and you can't join the games for a while.

My bad.

Blind lobby reduces damaging crap like seating scripts.

BUT it removes the option to START an empty table, doesn't it?

Yet another way Stars is killing the non-NLHE/PLO games. First removal from mobile app, now this.

And I am saying this as a non-HUD rec that rarely plays more than 2 tables.

Some blind lobbies allow new tables to be started, some don’t. Can anyone confirm the mechanics on Stars?

It seems it sits at least two players at the same time for a few moments if there aren't open slots, than it gets full in a small time. So you can't battle heads up or 3-4 people short handed for a long time, only when the tables breaks up. And it also seems that the tables break more often with everyone sitting out after a few hands some times. Pretty frustating.

It was one of the cool things about starting tables, you could battle someone heads up until more people joined. And this is from someone which is a bit clueless playing HU, since I played mainly fullring before. But has I said it was quite fun to start new tables in the past, though the rake makes it less fun overtime. I don't even know if its beatable in the longrun playing HU lowstakes, only against fish I assume.

That's what I was expecting that it would encourage and result in.

Any word on if this is just for NLHE? And maybe PLO? Or is it going to be all games (if that's the case, will def. be another nail in the non-HE/O games, for casual drop-ins of stud or draw or mix games imo)

Seat Me just got live in Italy

Yeah I thought it mostly went away on stars after they ended their rakeback programs. Honestly this feels a bit too late. Also I assume this doesn't apply to zoom tables.

Can anyone from italy post their opinion about this after playing in this conditions for a while?

Yes - How much faster are the games now?

Seat me will kill stars cash games once and for all. Wont be long till all cash is zoom. Most enjoying thing about poker is table dynamics, for regs and fish.

The sad part is that even if its a total failure at .it , they will say it was a success and implement it at .com to **** all regulars

Hey you gotta start thinking positive, not negative. Its all in your head that its gonna be zoom only. You have too many negative thoughts. Live happily!

I doubt that - Severin was very clear about how it would be measured: "The success of this test will be measured by any changes in the deviation from the average time to act and, of course, the feedback that we receive from players."

That's deviation from the average time to act seems pretty objective to me.

I'm really surprised that they are doing this.

If people remember they did this on Full Tilt and it was an absolute ****in* disaster.

It was the final straw that broke the camels back. Full Tilt which was barely treading water pretty much died over night.

The games look so dead and depressing there in Italy. Only 6 Tables of 10 NL lol

I really don't wanna take from you guys the experience of that first impact with the Seat me. Mark my words however, it is, along with all its "features", beyond what you could possibly ever imagine.

BEYOND? You mean, in a bad way? Or a good way?

And... looks like LIMIT Omaha H/L is blind lobby , so my guess is the other limit games including Stud and Draw and mixed will also be blind. Those tables will be dying and restarting often I would imagine -- as people try to not be to the left of cap-happy LAGs from Eastern Europe / Russia.

This is true but it was after 2 years or so of constant changes and poor direction from the get go.
It might have been a good decision implemented too late.

Unibet does pretty good and they have something similar or the same thing.

Yes Unibet has had it for ever and its not bad. Chill out guys (unless you a bumhunter then I understand that u scared af).

You can bumhunt ub if you really want and rathole every 5bb if you want. System is far from good imo. Imo the system party uses is fine. Too bad they ****ed up the handhistories though.

It is a bit ****ty to have to play someone heads up and so on before more players will or will not join, as you haven't chosen it as so. Depending on the size of the pool and how often tables break.

How long people will be staying at bad tables is a new problem. Many will seek out the better ones and they will break when they get tougher.

Waiting for an opponent is simply a waste of time, so the old style cash tables are no-good actually when there isn't as much action. The "sit and wait" (better know as "SNG") tables also need waiting.

One can play both the regular and zoom and I think the regular is way more popular in the Mediterranean sites, although the zoom rake is lower.

I know this is an old post but wanted to add to this. Pre BF my winrate was 2-3bb/100 12 tabling 50nl/100nl on FullTilt. A few years ago I decided to play again and can only four table on Ignition and winrate is ~10bb/100. I make more money per 100k hands four tabling. That said I made about 10 dollars per hour in rb on top of small winrate which made mass tabling more profitable but was still less enjoyable I feel.