8 pl
3 prizes
3rd same prize as 1st
2nd 2x 3rd
Not disappointing at all until the chest got opened .

can you pls elaborate, dunno what am i missing...
if i get the concept right, in an ideal world i would play 1 million spin and goes and i would get the distribution that is listed on PS... in that situation my EV is fine...
in the real world after like 10k spins i am missing like 20% of the buyins (plus the rake ofc)... someone was lucky and got them...
i guess its the same with this max trash too... if i click cashout, some other game will get 12$ 14$ 18$ options instead of 4$ 4$ 7$... and the second place would be 6$ not 3$...

the real problem is in a classical 3 players spin i have an edge and i am not going all in after the 20 hands... always 2 opponents and minimum 2x the buyin prize... in max i have 2-7 opponents and minimum 1.5 buyin prize...

Spin and go's have the same chance of the prize at any point. The $1M can be hit 50 times in a row and you still have the same chance after that.

When you hit the cash out option two things can happen. One option is that the 5% or whatever is missing from the pool is redistributed, meaning your loss is a net gain for the next games. The second option is that PS flatout takes your money and no other games are affected.

How is POKER STARS .
Getting away with CHEATING players with this CHIT.
Even if they are not stealing the money , i feel cheated.
60% of buy ins just disappear, never to be heard of again.
The addictive part of MAX is wanting to see a GTD prize pool over the total buy in .
Surely this is not sanctioned by gambling laws.

This format will be a failure just because of the payouts. Super depressing to be in a 6 max and top prize like not even 2x buyin. Let this format and Beat the clock rot and focus your energy on the Power Up game.

Power Up is actually something new and entertaining.

but the multipliers drop way more often than in spin and go's, so you need less games to get higher multipliers instead of with spin and gos,
even though spin and gos are very high variance, they look way more solid then this format, wich you can loose or win alot in a few time, spin and go's will dry up more with regs i guess.

amaya down swong?

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=amaya+stock

when they hit $13 plenty of chests will open with a huge bonus inside!

Seems like they're on a track for slow and steady growth, with that one crazy year as an aberration. http://imgur.com/a/0Vh52

I don't think slow and steady growth is what they had in mind and what they can afford when they bought a $5B company. Also they bought a money making machine and they are now worth less than after the announcement (the first spike to $18), that's amazing.

It's just cute to see NVG keep screaming that they're idiots and they're going to fail, when there's not really evidence of that.

idiots can succeed as well. NVG is a prime example of that.

IF you feel so CHEATED
by THIS UNREGULATED GAMBLING GAME OFFERING
why even PLAY
this offering from AMAYASTARS
to begin WITH
POSSIBLY RIGGED

Nope, that is not how to read that graph! Ignore the pre-Stars days, and start your analysis from the spike which indicates the purchase of Stars. Does it still look like slow and steady growth?

however, casino and sportbook compensate poker stagnation and successfully growing their share in company's revenue. jan 2016 boycott was the last checkpoint when we could somehow put a pressure on amaya. soon they gonna be like 888 or WH with not giving a damn about poker room at all since casino and bets makes most of the money without a headache with making up new cool stories every year about bad ecosystem and paying dnegs millions to shill all the sh*t they talk.

Afaik Amaya still makes 70% of their revenue with poker. Other sites probably look the same.

Why do the cards get dealt so much slower then a normal game? Very suscipious

poker revenue share:

amaya - 65,5% (and keeps decreasing relatively fast)
888 - 18%
partypoker - 6%
william hill - 1%

these numbers explain why other poker operators don't even mind making competetive software, servers and other conditions for players.

very interesting numbers

One of the biggest bookies so doesn't really surprise that much.

This actually does. Imo the casino and the betting at 888 are pretty bad. Really surprised that it makes more money than poker. They don't even pay rb these days.

888 has always been casino first. Fwiw poker is still second largest segment (sport is around ~11%); 888 only added sports in 2015.

Where did you get this figure? To my knowledge, GVC hasn't broken out poker from its 'games division' since it acquired bwinparty.

http://www.gvc-plc.com/archive/pdf/G...ports_2016.pdf
checked numbers again, every number is correct except partypoker one is wrong, but can be not far from the real one. 6% share for the global gaming industry. (13th pdf page)

they dont provide detailed info. what we have is two divisions:

- sports labels (betting sites) - 606.8kk revenue - 77%
- games labels (partypoker, partycasino + 3 casino/bingo labels) - 182.1kk revenue - 23%

consindering the trends in i-gaming industry would be appropriate to suppose that partypoker represents not much of those 23%

Sorry, didn't mean to send you down the rabbit hole and check all your numbers - just eyeballing them i knew the others were accurate, but i didn't think such numbers were available for party. Thanks for clarifying.

I'm hoping they'll start breaking out poker from next year, they keep talking it up in their earnings call but not actually providing hard revenue figs.

Edit: Fwiw, the last data we have on partypoker is from 2014; bwin.party reported poker revenue at €81.7m, around 13%. It will have declined in 2015, but GVC says it increased at the end of 2016. I think your 6% figure is probably not far off (hence why I wanted to ask); maybe a point or two higher.

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2015/...line-20909.htm

old link to bwin.party's (before GVC acquisition) 2014 anual report says poker generated 13,5% of total gross revenue

i've checked the other numbers just to make sure i don't speak bullsh*t after i noticed a mistake for party number. no problem here