Anyone know if VIP levels from this month will Carry over into July?

im pretty sure they do, otherwise im sueing ps

Lolz. You think PS wouldn't bend you over if they wanted to?

So is there any Danish player here to give us some thoughts about the new reward system?

what sorts are people going to have other than "it's ****, i make <10% of what I used to in rakeback"

steve ruddock and dan negreanu

Matthew Parvis (PokerNews) and Adam Small (Pocket Fives)

John Pappas and Rich Muny

rich ****ing muny

Can anyone give me a tl;dr of latest Pokerstars Supernova letter? I am reading it and my eyes are actually bleeding, what the f...ing f..k is happening. Some chests with random reward? Chests have value based on my deposit/withdrawal ratio? Randomised awards? What is this, Clash of f..king Clans?

Instead of 30% rb, you're now getting 4% rb disbursed randomly, but while the new system may lack actual money, it more than makes up for this with intrigue, dynamism and excitement.

super exiting to watch mid-stakes sng, cash, zoom, spins, hypers all die like it happened in the high-stakes when SNE was removed.

popcorn already ordered.

Bye Stars, hello Party

This is the best thing to happen to poker In years. What's terrible for poker is a bunch of break even players 16 tabling like a robot living off of rakeback. It's an unattractive environment for recreational players. If they don't give them a lot of rakeback then people will stop 16 tabling playing like robots. We need a good mix of maniacs, recreational, old tight guys, semi pros and pros. Not just tables full with 16 tabling break even players who rip apart fish in minutes. **** the break even rakeback grinders.

Did someone actually calculate this rakeback decrease (from 30% to 4%)? Or is it a guesstimate?

Break even rakeback grinders do not "rip apart fish in minutes". They are break even players, they are moderately okay against fish and loosing against good professional players. I don't think mass-tabling rakeback professionals ever caused any real problems for recreational players to play apart from longer time-banks (which can be resolved by tonns of things that are not rakeback cuts).

On the contrary, if a fish wants to gamble in high-stakes turbo/hyper sng there was always a game for him there. He could take his chances against regulars and frankly his chances were okay in those formats where being a winner actually means having like 1% roi over gazillion of games. Now that you woo away these kind of professionals there gonna be much less games for fishy players to try their luck in.

Same with zoom tables. Where do you think recreational player would rather jump in to gamble away his Friday's 100 bucks, in a pool with 100 entries or in a pool with 10 entries from 3 suspiciously professional looking players? Well now you are going to have pools that will have much less entries and they are gonna look much scarier for fish players. And they will be, because only top winners will be able afford to play these games.

So to me it looks like Pokerstars is stepping on its own throat.

They should just make the max tables way lower instead of this crapshow called chests. They are just increasing the rake and still some people are 'hell yeah better games'. I hate the 16 tabling eastern european bots just as much the next guy but this is most def not the best thing in a long time for poker. It will just make the games even more bumhunted and seating script is if possible more important. If they don't change the seating system to unibet style pool like they planned.

So how high should they make the rake to fully cure this and secure the brightest future for poker?

... so why the **** not just ban people from playing more than 4 tables e.g. bovada etc.?

amaya is obviously competing with GoT for how many houses/formats they can actually kill/exterminate. All that is going to be left are the happy fish on -ev and slight +ev poker games (ie. beat the clock, spins) and casino games (now a good chunk of amaya profits) depositing and opening chests; and the +ev formats saturated with reg+stubborn bad reg, where the fish is going to be eaten off even faster than before.

can someone actually confirm this? sources?

i could directly quote their website where they say the thing rolls to the next month, but that hasn't seemed to have stopped them ****ing us in the past

We all have received the email with the new 'vip program' changes, consider that their green light and enjoy rb for more 5 days imo.

Rakeback pros are now chest recs.
And once super exits, can good and fair be far behind?

good for who, amaya? fair for who, the fish and recs that are going to lose the deposits faster ?

gl w dat

golds are worth $7 and everyone says they cost $180 to clear, so...