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Pokerstars - Important changes to VIP reward for 2017

View Poll Results: Will you continue playing on Stars after the VIP changes?

I will likely quit poker as a profession soon after.

62 13.51%

I plan to move most/all of my action to another site.

273 59.48%

Keep grinding it. More rake is better anyway.

124 27.02%

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04-07-2017 , 01:59 PM

#851

SJM_

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Very cathartic.

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04-07-2017 , 02:18 PM

#852

Rusemandingo

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I havent heard of a single SNGer or MTTer that has received that email. Could it be that Stars is reducing the way they award VPPs on cash tables and not a complete overhaul of the VIP system?

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04-07-2017 , 04:43 PM

#853

lpoulter1

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As a newer player what exactly is the problem with eastern european players?

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04-07-2017 , 04:51 PM

#854

WateryBoil

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thats kind of like asking "whats the problem with cancer?"

hope that helps

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04-07-2017 , 04:54 PM

#855

Esa_Perse

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Originally Posted by lpoulter1

As a newer player what exactly is the problem with eastern european players?

Just like in life and sports general they dont play by the rules.

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04-07-2017 , 05:21 PM

#856

lpoulter1

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Originally Posted by lpoulter1

As a newer player what exactly is the problem with eastern european players?

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Originally Posted by WateryBoil

thats kind of like asking "whats the problem with cancer?"

hope that helps

It does not.

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04-07-2017 , 05:34 PM

#857

guilzao

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Originally Posted by lpoulter1

As a newer player what exactly is the problem with eastern european players?

in general for what i see in this thread just losers who cant beat nits telling that micros are unbeatable lol

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04-07-2017 , 06:02 PM

#858

LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by Alexdb

If a country contains a net worse than average fish ratio, it is a drain on the ROW game quality, even if it is net losing.

That reduces player retention and market growth. How does that help global poker?

This is not true for MTTs and SNGs, both of which need a decent size player pool for GTDs and short filling times.

It's probably pretty true for cash, see:

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Originally Posted by mrwong

As far as your point about another poker boom well let me say something bighitter,you dont need a poker boom to become a poker pro ,infact in the non-boom years people dont empower themselves with knowledge you see when poker is not cool the eco-system ironically is shrunk but the games are easier with-out thousands of aspriring phil ivys .In a nutshell if your live player then you dont need 100 thousand games running off all over the world you only need 1 table 2 drunk golf tourists a couple of old nits maybe one or two mentally weak people and a hot cali lady whom thinks banging a well dressed old sick buck like me is exciting.This could be the most inportant post in a long while .....time for a drink and a w5nk.

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04-07-2017 , 06:08 PM

#859

DickeLatte

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Originally Posted by guilzao

in general for what i see in this thread just losers who cant beat nits telling that micros are unbeatable lol

+1

some of you guys really need to pull your head outta your asses. this is a thread about changes in stars' reward program and i think most of you agree with me that nobody but amaya will profit from said changes.

but instead of focussing on the real issues at hand, you prefer to combat your frustration by blaming the sergeys and igors of the poker world for your pathetic winrates.

amaya 1 : 0 2p2 community

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04-08-2017 , 01:07 AM

#860

TimStone

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Originally Posted by lpoulter1

As a newer player what exactly is the problem with eastern european players?

Tooo manies

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04-08-2017 , 01:07 AM

#861

TimStone

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Originally Posted by DickeLatte

amaya 17 : 1 2p2 community

Fyp!

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04-08-2017 , 01:42 AM

#862

istack_u5

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

I havent heard of a single SNGer or MTTer that has received that email. Could it be that Stars is reducing the way they award VPPs on cash tables and not a complete overhaul of the VIP system?

really? I got. you didnt? Well, according to the email it will be based on daily play rather than monthly. Other than that not sure what changes to expect

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04-08-2017 , 03:47 AM

#863

yellowfever

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Originally Posted by lol vanguard

Not if big parts of Eastern Europe are banned from accessing the tables and the operators of the poker site also make sure that it´s virtually impossible to buy or rent an account.

A pokersite that caters exclusively to wealthy countries and really enforces the TOS to make sure that random Sergeys can´t play would do tremendously.

Besides, the kind of firstworldpoker . com site I´m talking about should also crack down on players, who reside in countries like Thailand, Cambodia, Mexico and so on that provide little value in terms of net deposits.

The games would be so good.

Make poker great again.

Great post.

firstworldpoker.com is the only route to having good online poker again. You live in a country that has a GDP to low to afford to gamble on the site stick to pokerstars. This will make games great and put a nice balance to the ecosystem.

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04-08-2017 , 03:55 AM

#864

DickeLatte

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Originally Posted by TimStone

Fyp!

i agree lol

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04-08-2017 , 04:38 AM

#865

davmcg

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....I´m talking about should also crack down on players, who reside in countries like Thailand.....

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Originally Posted by yellowfever

Great post.

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04-08-2017 , 04:54 AM

#866

yellowfever

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Yup i reside in Thailand and agree they should ban countries like Thailand and Mexico as well. I'm all for the good of online poker even if it affects my own lifestyle.

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04-08-2017 , 04:55 PM

#867

Rusemandingo

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Originally Posted by istack_u5

really? I got. you didnt? Well, according to the email it will be based on daily play rather than monthly. Other than that not sure what changes to expect

I havent gotten it. Neither did jdawg. We both play 25+ days a month. Do you know around what yours is?

Strange. Guess it isnt just cash.

Ive been getting 7reg 3.50 9m hypers the last few weeks so something needs to change at some point.

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04-08-2017 , 05:35 PM

#868

Kelvis

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Originally Posted by WateryBoil

thats kind of like asking "whats the problem with cancer?"

hope that helps

So you're saying just a little bit of cancer would be fine but not too much?

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04-08-2017 , 05:37 PM

#869

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

7reg 3.50 9m hypers

the f...

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04-08-2017 , 05:45 PM

#870

istack_u5

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

I havent gotten it. Neither did jdawg. We both play 25+ days a month. Do you know around what yours is?

Strange. Guess it isnt just cash.

About that as well, maybe 20 days not 25. That is very strange nonetheless, but regardless not holding my breathe for this new program here. Looking forward to playing more sites now, ty amaya

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04-08-2017 , 06:42 PM

#871

Thrash370

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

I got it as well. Do you play casino at all? If you do your rewards will supposedly be higher which is why you might not have gotten it.

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04-09-2017 , 09:38 AM

#872

Hood

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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

I havent heard of a single SNGer or MTTer that has received that email. Could it be that Stars is reducing the way they award VPPs on cash tables and not a complete overhaul of the VIP system?

We know it is a complete overhaul. No monthly limits, short-term personalized goals, variety of factors including stakes played and net deposits of the player are considered.

However, it may well be that under the new system, SNG/MTT players will not be affected in the same way mid stakes cash game players will be.

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04-09-2017 , 10:08 AM

#873

doctor877

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Originally Posted by DickeLatte

This is not necessarily true. It might have similiar effect as the SNE removal for some of the regs. When ton of small winners / B-E grinders stopped playing 500z after SNE was cut off. Plenty of the better regs benefited from those regs dropping out of the pool.

Like look at it from the pov of the top regs for certain limit, yes they lose xbb/100 from decreased rakeback, but if enough weaker regs stop playing, it will increase the winrate of the better regs by ybb/100 as pool gets overall softer.