The 28% Supernovas are getting is only applicable until the new rewards programme is introduced.

The only thing of real substance in the email was the stars coins being removed from dormant accounts.

Definitely. Games have gotten better since the removal of Supernova Elite.

You don't have guys like Frosty 20 tabling $.50/1 Full Ring anymore.

There are also not 5 regs at every Hyper Turbo Sit and Go as well. Now it's more like 2 regs at every table.

I think 28% Rakeback is still pretty good. It just sounds bad compared to the old VIP system which was in place.

yes, players now seeing more flops right?

T Thanks for pointing that out. If a Stars rep reads this: to further improve the health of the games, why not also extend the measure to non dormant accounts?
. What about cash balances?
Wouldn' t it make sense to take some small fee (1%) at the the end of each month for having an account? That fee could be increased maybe everey 6 months. Just thinking outside of the box here.

yes, now u have 5 reasonably good estonians instead of one frosty.
definitely `better`.
many luck to u at the tables sir.

I vaguely recall a post from quite a while back saying that the $$$ in dormant account starscoins is listed in some long ass paper since it's financial information for the stock owners. Or something.

What I'm saying is that if you know where to look you can actually find the number

http://www.amaya.com/pdf/Amaya-q2-20...ents-final.pdf . Page 21, table at the end of the page, second row. so there is bout 52mil in uncashed starscoins (as of june 2016)

ya 10k VPPs must be achieved monthly to be a Supernova with 28%.
Honestly, it is not the end of the world compared to the new 888 club...

I don't mind them removing star coins from dormant accounts. Yes it only hits recs, but the recs that get hit don't play anymore. And it might bring some back because they don't want to lose their balance.

wtf are you all talking about? there is literally not a single new piece of information in that statement, everything was known earlier

e: nothing new regarding rb, i guess dormant starcoins thing is new

That 6 month rule is way to short. I'm currently splitting time between U.S. and Mexico. This effects more than Recs.

No, I think you are getting it wrong. 28% will be the max reward in the new VIP system. Seems pretty clear from the email.
New VIP system : max 28% to SN
The only thing they didn't mention is how rewards will be achieve

Overall, I think its a change for the better.

The vast majority of Supernovas are currently only getting 28% anyways, as I'm assuming most of them don't play the daily and weekly freerolls with low guarantees and massive field sizes.

I'd much rather get the 28% Rakeback after a month of grinding, instead of having to play an entire year to get the Rakeback after accumulating 100k VPPs

I'm pretty sure 28% RB is before the new VIP system is introduced.

Seems to me the 'next year's VIP Club changes' is referring to the major overhaul. But I might lack of comprehension skillz.
Also, there's two points, in my favor I guess, what's the point of reducing 2% the VIP system for a short period of time? I mean, that doesn't make any sense if you don't plan to continue to give away 28%

Also there are another important aspect that players doesn't recognize. The first announcement was sent only to SN, because changes are going to affect them the most. Now seems pretty clear to me that levels below won't be tampered. So IMO, if they have in mind to reduce SN to IDK, 10%, also platinum stars would received that mail.

Under/over 5 players that move to another site as a result of these changes?

From NVG? Under.

People still playing on stars are not motivated by money. They are motivated by a need to play on the biggest stage.

or by the fact that the form of poker they spend years getting good at only still exists on stars. You really shouldn't invest 2+ years into new format with current poker envoirment.

They already said some clues in the past, to achieve the higher status you'll also have to play the casino and sport betting games. Maybe the 28% in rewards will be distributed in tickets or bonus to spend in those games or maybe tickets to spin and go hyper sattelites to the rebranded live tournaments.

^ nope, they said playing multiple (non-poker) games will help you to achieve an higher status, but it won't be required

Or because the client is still the best one out there, you can get the games running instantly, biggest selection of different games, instant cashouts to skrill and neteller and obv the games are still beatable.

I can live w/ that 28% if you can get it just grinding poker. Pretty much the market strd rb if you dont calculate rakeraces etc. And to that removing coins after 6 month period many site does that allready (charcing fees if account is not active) so not surprised at all. And if it brings the randoms back when they email 'hey you have coins come play or we remove them' thats good allso.

So it sucks but not nearly as much I was expecting.

That's what I thought on a first read and was pleased but I reread the first email and it states rewards will not be based on monthly or yearly play,all they would of changed is supernova to monthly!it would be a pretty big u turn?

^ I'm pretty sure PS rep came here, or in another thread, and stated that playing multiple games won't matters in the end, expect that you are going to achieve the status faster.
I'm not at home so I cannot link it to you, maybe someone could chime in and confirm this

Can we now achieve SN easily by betting on red/black all the time? 48.6% chance of winning and get ur money split when it hits zero for some additional %. Doesnt sound too bad

That is correct. You do not have to play anything else other than poker to attain a status.

It is important to remember that sports betting and casino is only available in certain countries so, Stars couldn't say that players need to play all 3 things in order to earn a status - it simply isn't possible with such a massive number of there player base unable to participate.

The difference will be that, if you so 'choose' to place some sports bets or gamble at the Stars casino, you will also earn points (just like you do with poker) and they too will contribute towards your status total.

If your playing a combination of poker, sports betting and casino constantly, then obviously you will be achieving a lot more points quicker and therefore moving up in status faster.

They have added the sports betting and casino as contributing factors in regards to points/status because, they wan't to encourage players to use those things as they (like everyone else who run these types of things) make a crap load of money from them.