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Pokerstars - Important changes to VIP reward for 2017

View Poll Results: Will you continue playing on Stars after the VIP changes?

I will likely quit poker as a profession soon after.

62 13.51%

I plan to move most/all of my action to another site.

273 59.48%

Keep grinding it. More rake is better anyway.

124 27.02%

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09-09-2016 , 03:20 PM

#51

PTLou

JellyBean

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,516

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

"What difference at this point does it make!"

-- Hillary Clinton and DNegs

boom! wp

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09-09-2016 , 04:05 PM

#52

Maximus122

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 886

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Originally Posted by Omaha6betAI

You must be kidding here! Do you belive you would get fixed 30% from january on? wow! You totally misunderstood the email!

No troll Brah.

Will be enjoying Supernova rewards on the 30th of January next year

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09-09-2016 , 04:08 PM

#53

KossuKukkula

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,805

I have a feeling it will be more like unibet type of system where the smaller stakes players gets more and the higher you go eventually you get nothing.

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09-09-2016 , 04:34 PM

#54

Drrr.Gonzo

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,586

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Originally Posted by SlotJockey

the extra rake may be part of a cash grab yes maybe theyll use some of it in increased mtt guarantess. (one can hope).

the extra rake is also for the purpose of cutting back on the pros/grinders. those 16 tabling people using software click click clicking. they are making it so those people are forced to play less tables/less volume but make the sessions count. basically they are trying to level the edge against the recs and force players to play smarter and make the sessions count or the rake paid through long sessions is too much at times to overcome.

they are basically saying u want to earn a living at playing poker no problem. but you're gonna have to earn your money like the average rec/fish does by making your sessions count more. yes its a punishment to those who grind out 16-24 tables many hours a day.

i see what they are doing. kudos pokerstars. fantastic job!!!!

many arent going to like this cause they are spoiled using the software for insane volume. the extra rake compensates for the less volume the grinders and multitablers will pay.

Dude we know your just some shill that doesn't even play olp this helps no one and its not going to slow amayas bleeding stock. I suspect they will be selling stars within 2years, they may have the poker market cornered, but there are plenty of sportsbook/casino options for row players so im not sure how much more revenue they expect to make from them.

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09-09-2016 , 05:00 PM

#55

YaDaDaMeeN21

adept

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 949

With an announcement this big I'd expect to see a Pokerstars Rep making a thread. Seems like they are past PR attempts at this point.

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09-09-2016 , 05:10 PM

#56

_jimbo_

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,438

Sad times.

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09-09-2016 , 05:14 PM

#57

Menace_2_Society

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 250

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09-09-2016 , 05:22 PM

#58

TrustySam

journeygirl

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,198

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Originally Posted by 4-Star General

Just received this email, we should expect another decent money grab
http://newsletters.starsaccount.it/2...ept-announ/en/

Can't seem to find this email in any of my inboxes - not sure if it's there, and am just not seeing it ... or if they've only sent notice to Goldstar and higher again?

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09-09-2016 , 05:23 PM

#59

Dr.FatCat

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,082

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

I think everyone may be over reacting.

They haven't said for certain that Supernova rewards will be reduced. They said that they are subject to change, which they always were.

Secondly, its much better if you can get Supernova rewards now after a month of grinding as opposed to having to wait an entire year to get the 30% rewards.

I assume that you will have to get 9000 VPPs a month to get the Supernova rewards.

It's good news as long as the rewards aren't cut to ****

Sorry to break it to you bro but they aren't going to make the same Supernova with 27% (not 30%) attainable by just getting 9000 VPP's the old way. The entire point of the e-mail is that your VIP level is not calculated on how much volume you put but what kind of games you play etc... So basically if you degen at slots you get supernova (with like 20% rapeback probably) in 5 days but if you play 6max 200 cash you will get 3.50 VPP's per decade.

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09-09-2016 , 05:24 PM

#60

Soepgroente

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,083

Yeah so the 20tabling nits cut down to 6 tables and loosened up a bit and played even better which I'm guessing caused the majority of the increase in average VPIP.

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09-09-2016 , 06:09 PM

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TheJacob

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,862

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

It's good news as long as the rewards aren't cut to ****

When was the last time a pokerstars press release wasn't a money grab?

The headsup by postal service app?

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09-09-2016 , 06:20 PM

#62

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,060

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente

Yeah so the 20tabling nits cut down to 6 tables and loosened up a bit and played even better which I'm guessing caused the majority of the increase in average VPIP.

to be fair some definitely quit. and nits reducing tables and playing more hands (in some cases better) should still make a better experience for recreational (and frankly all) players. less time-banking etc and slightly looser games.

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09-09-2016 , 06:25 PM

#63

Maximus122

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 886

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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol

If regs play less tables and actually think about their decisions then recreational players will loose at a much faster rate

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09-09-2016 , 06:25 PM

#64

7deuc3

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 293

this may be great, bring some ultimate D-gening

i want to see nanonoko, 24 table some 6 max cash, while having 20 slots spinning on the side, a few roulette tables running on his ipad, while 20 tabling some blackjack, he'll soon take over george lind in vpps, while getting a massive adrenaline rush and fix from all the gambling options available.

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09-09-2016 , 06:28 PM

#65

Maximus122

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 886

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Originally Posted by TheJacob

When was the last time a pokerstars press release wasn't a money grab?

The headsup by postal service app?

Ya I was being stupidly optimistic. If rewards were going to stay the same they would have said.

I don't understand why everyone just doesn't move over to Americas Cardroom.

You get Supernova rakeback there the second you sign up

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09-09-2016 , 06:36 PM

#66

restorativejustice

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 2,753

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Originally Posted by PTLou

boom! wp

I should have also posted that picture of the two of them together under the quote. My bad.

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09-09-2016 , 06:38 PM

#67

Omaha6betAI

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 93

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

obv troll confirmed

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09-09-2016 , 06:47 PM

#68

4-Star General

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,012

Currently, your VIP progress resets each month, but our rewards should be personalized to your recent gaming activity and profile

This should be the most scary thing IMO and I don't know why anyone didn't bring this up.
If my comprehension is correct, they could value winners and losers differently. i.e. you can be a supernova loser and have 30% or you can be a supernova winner and get 5%

Last edited by 4-Star General; 09-09-2016 at 06:53 PM.

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09-09-2016 , 06:50 PM

#69

AntoniusBlock

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 19

Look to my coming, at first light, on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the East.

Phil Gandalf one time.

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09-09-2016 , 06:51 PM

#70

Omaha6betAI

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 93

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Originally Posted by 4-Star General

Currently, your VIP progress resets each month, but our rewards should be personalized to your recent gaming activity and profile

This should be the most scary thing IMO and I don't know why anyone didn't bring this up.
If my comprehension is correct, they could value winner and lose differently. i.e. you can be a supernova loser and have 30% or you can be a supernova winner and get 5%

You are correct, haven't had a thought about this! This sounds really ****ed up!

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09-09-2016 , 06:52 PM

#71

ChanY

adept

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,113

I'm going to have the best nights sleep of my life knowing that more people than ever are seeing flops.

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09-09-2016 , 06:54 PM

#72

TonnaMunz

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,759

lol casino games supernova, THANKS FOR THE EMAIL! WE ARE POKER! Deposits lasting longer thats GR8 M8!!!

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09-09-2016 , 06:55 PM

#73

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,060

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

If regs play less tables and actually think about their decisions then recreational players will loose at a much faster rate

yeah but some regs also quit completely, and the overall number of players at tables that are regs should be less. also i'd say the edge of a reg doesn't change too much vs. recreational players as it does vs. other regs, auto-piloting and playing reasonable poker is always going to do healthily against rec players.

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09-09-2016 , 07:06 PM

#74

Labax

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,164

Basically adopting the exact same strat that 888 have deployed.

Couldn't help myself.

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09-09-2016 , 07:22 PM

#75

2pairsof2s

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,608

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Originally Posted by Maximus122

If regs play less tables and actually think about their decisions then recreational players will loose at a much faster rate

You would like us to think that, but the truth is most of the rake-back grinders are like this guy:

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Originally Posted by Scarmaker

Given the massive amount of requests for me to do this, I decided to go ahead and create a separate thread. Once again, I apologize in case that is not welcome.

I got no fear of them. I hate playing with guys that are at 20+ tables, I get to sit and watch their clock tick down to zero (again) before they fold (again.) You get two or three of them at two or three of your tables and your games are dead. Good riddance to them.

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