Just received this email, we should expect another decent money grab
http://newsletters.starsaccount.it/2...ept-announ/en/

So greater or equal volume for less vip points, how does this help recs?

A higher percentage of hands are seeing the flop in cash games, player deposits are lasting longer,
^lies until proven otherwise.

This and and the next rake increase cycle will probably pull the plug for good for online poker as a professional job. But if it means cash game players get to see more flops it's all worth it.

Online poker is fixed boys, supernovas can make their millions again

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Fantastic news!!!!!

I will translate: Just **** poker, go for the casino already!

Absolute ****s. It's so ****ed up.

Just now more than ever time to hope for RIO Poker being our savior...

"What difference at this point does it make!"

-- Hillary Clinton and DNegs

RIO one time baby

the extra rake may be part of a cash grab yes maybe theyll use some of it in increased mtt guarantess. (one can hope).

the extra rake is also for the purpose of cutting back on the pros/grinders. those 16 tabling people using software click click clicking. they are making it so those people are forced to play less tables/less volume but make the sessions count. basically they are trying to level the edge against the recs and force players to play smarter and make the sessions count or the rake paid through long sessions is too much at times to overcome.

they are basically saying u want to earn a living at playing poker no problem. but you're gonna have to earn your money like the average rec/fish does by making your sessions count more. yes its a punishment to those who grind out 16-24 tables many hours a day.

i see what they are doing. kudos pokerstars. fantastic job!!!!

many arent going to like this cause they are spoiled using the software for insane volume. the extra rake compensates for the less volume the grinders and multitablers will pay.

Wouldn't it be easier to just limit the number of tables one can play? I would understand that.

Still waiting on that great news Dnegs promised

I haven't read the small print, but this sounds like a great change for recreational players.

Of course, grinders will be unhappy and make their opinions known on forums like this. But poker sites should not be catering to grinders.

By this logic you are saying regs are going to have to play better, in turn making recs bigger losers in the games they play due to increased ability - The opposite of what PS are "supposedly" trying to do re: the whole poker ecology, recs lose money slower spiel.

No flop, no rake.

Absolute horse****.

My god. So slimy.

not yet, could be an interesting idea, for them

**** off amaya, i was going to type something thought out but literally anything they do is just so frustrating.

RIO poker please somehow become massive and overtake this selfish, short-sighted downhill company.

(the rewards for playing casino is w.e , probably good to give back to the gamblers who will lose money there anyways, but with more changes to VIP / vip system change i feel they are going to cut out literally any positive rakeback that people who play often get. Don't worry those chromestars who play twice a month will get an extra 50 cents back though!!!!)

Really looking forward to playing at RIO Poker

more flops? awesome, they can start to rake less then and still break even...

Is not coming. He meant the $1mio freerolls which were totally laughable. DN does not give a ****, wake up!

they are accounting for the loss of revenue when people who multitable to insane degrees are forced to play less tables because of the rake increase. which is what they want, they still need to ensure a revenue stream but are prepared to take somewhat of a hit. because they know its going to piss some people off like they already have and they dont care what those players think about the changes. they figure those people are addicted and will always come back at some point because they have the biggest pool and the mtts are juicy enough to keep the recs/fish plus the potential to make money is still there and after the SNE thing those that were whining the most about it proved they couldnt stay away. changing the reward structure for sn-elites and such was the first step/ clue that this was coming. they arent say dont multi table they are just saying if you can and beat the rake good for you but we are going to take a cut to discourage you from trying it. what they do with that money who knows but they are a business looking at expansions and other things. you dont think starsnj is paying for itself do you?

the other thing is some are too arrogant and egotistical and think they have more skill than they really do. i have a feeling their "luck" is going to change. karma is leveling/balancing out the poker ecosystem through stars.
poker is not on this earth to be an exclusive game for a priviliged few to profit from. count your blessings be gratefull for what you get. but people forget that and become spoiled. you'll see. but what do i know im just some "whacko" who is "clueless.". the creator is changing manys lives. REPENT AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED. lol

forgot- on the bright side maybe RIO is the future option for some of those mass tabling nits and others who are unhappy with stars. stars will be around as long as there is online poker.

Of course. It's not a skill game unless you have to overcome 15bb/100 in rake to make any profit.

so they are just killing off half the games w this no rb bs? i guess i finally need buy some seating scripts and start pure bumhuntin w timstone.