Hello,
On April 4th, 2020 I was playing my usual morning MTT session. Since fields in higher stakes european morning MTTs are small, I know most of the regs and I often scroll through lobby. In $162 Pacific (which at the beginning has around 40 players) I have noticed that there are unusually high number of Lithuanian players. I did some Sharkscoping and it became obvious that there are 6 accounts that are being played by the same person.

Here is a spreadsheet that shows how many tournaments each of these accounts played on any given day from 2nd of February to 8th of April.
At the bottom of the spreadsheet you can see screenshots of tournaments that each account played. Some of the accounts are now locked on Sharkscope.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

I think not much to comment, it's too obvious.
- Same country
- Same tournaments played on the exactly same days.

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I have sent this spreadsheets to Pokerstars security on 8th of April and got a standard response the next day that they will look into it and take appropriate actions but can't comment on this case. Few days later I met them at the tables again, but decided to wait a bit more before posting and giving Stars some time during this busy time. After that it seemed that they were gone until I saw them playing again today and could not believe it. I checked on Sharkscope and they started playing again on 5th of may. Same style, playing exact same tournaments on exact same days.



I just can't understand why Pokerstars ignored this case. I think this is a clear cheating and hurts other players a lot, aspecially in small field morning MTTs. When 6 players play in a tournament like $162 Pacific, which has like 40 runners at the beginning, that means at least on one table there will be at least two accounts sharing cards. And the negative effect is multiplied on final tables where they can manipulate ICM. They should definitely be frozen permanently with funds confiscated.

looks compelling.. Stars doesn't have enough evidence to freeze the accounts?

They share cards ans still losing? Am I missing something here?

You are missing alot of things that much is certain. The fact you base that statement on a sample size of 24 mtts is laughable enough.

True that I didn't investigate the scope just noticed they are losing that's all.

Thankfully for society you are not a CriminalInvestigator

Dont tap the tank.

Sorry you've wasted countless hours on your "investigation"

Did you even look at the spreadsheet? How do you explain this?
On 'Feb 20' all 6 accounts play one same tournament.
From 'Feb 21' to 'Feb 28' none of the accounts play even a single tournament.
On 'Feb 29' All 6 accounts play one same tournament again.
From 'Mar 1' to 'Mar 10' none of the accounts play even a single tournament.

How can on April 5 they all play exactly 10 tourmanets?

And it's happening over and over again. There aren't a single day where let's say Account A plays 2 games, Account B plays 5 games etc.

Please explain to me how can this be legit because I can't understand that

If there were only 2 accounts playing all the same stuff all the time it would already be close to 0 percent chance to be legit, unless it's like bf and gf (or a gay couple) just do a family grind all the time or two best friends living together and sharing action. But 6 of them? Or maybe I am wrong, maybe it's just 6 cute guys who are in love with each other just having fun all the time together and playing the same stuff because they are too close to do different stuff.

Seens like that could be a really trustfull prove.
Maybe Stars is waiting for them to start winning before taking any measures.

If they are cheating, hope they get caught.
If they are not, hope that nothing happens.

Breaking news! Anyone who freely chooses to play poker on the internet must accept the fact that they will eventually be cheated. /investigation

Fun fact: 1 party cannot collude or conspire alone

Maybe they all live in a poker grind house and they promised not to share hole card information.

What a dumb post. Trust me I'm sure someone as smart as you never gets cheated live lol.

And what does it look like to not choose to play online freely? Just a gun to the head or what?

What a dumb comment on my post. Of course I've been cheated at live poker, as everyone has been if they have played enough. And sorry about using the word "freely". I did not mean to imply anyone has been enslaved to play poker in the way Tom Dwan does for the Triad. Sorry to have upset you. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

p.s.. No need for you to comment on my Tom Dwan comment. In case you were unsure, I was joking.

What is this bs that people start trolling/hating on op? It's likely there is smt fishy going on.

Maybe it's not one person multi account, maybe it's multiple people sitting in a room and playing sharing holecarda.

And yeah on that small sample u can still loose, even if u know someone else's holecards on the table.

Find it weird that PS is not doing much. But maybe they wait till they try to cash out

No I just don't really get why you take such offense to OP pointing out fairly credible information related to possible collusion. Yes, everyone is saturated with the 'oh hey something doesn't seem right here must be cheating' type posts but he even provided SS screenshots and a general explanation of why he feels that way.

No need to just dismiss it because DURRR INTERNET POKER IS ALL RIGGED DURRR.

Why so many morons itt?

Op has a very legitimate concern. He spent time gathering and posting solid evidence that definitely backs up his claims. I'd guess there's like, idk, 99% chance these accounts are cheating.

News flash, a poker site doesn't need the same standard of evidence as a court does prosecuting a crime. PS can, and does all the time, decide players are too risky to have on their site and they will close accounts.

To clarify, in no way was I offended by the OP. In fact, I'm 100% sure the OP is correct. Good work OP, we all appreciate your work! (no sarcasm, I really do mean that!) 100% chance the accounts he identified were cheating. His evidence is outstanding. He has done the right thing in reporting it to PS and this community. But he uncovered the cheaters who did a real poor job at cheating. There are far more cheaters who are good at cheating, and those are the ones you should be more worried about. Those cheaters will be nearly impossible to detect. My only point was, just assume anytime you sit at an online poker table, there is a good chance you will be cheated. FYI, poker cheaters are always ahead of the poker cops. Factor that into your theoretical edge, and if you still think it's worth your time to play, then go for it. I suppose my first post just should have simply been what everyone already knows.. "caveat emptor".

p.s., I shouldn't have posted originally or engaged in all these responses. But I have been stuck at home for three months and I'm getting really bored.

My guess is that ps will wait til they win money, then confiscate it and ban them.

100% serious

Agree that there are far more serious cheaters (bots, RTA) and cheaters which are very difficult to catch.
But how can we expect those kind of guys to be removed from games when even some obvious cheater who is so dumb that he didn't even lock his sharkscope didn't get banned. And my intention isn't to hate Stars. At least until recently they have been the only site that put their resources into the game integrity and investigate even a lot of legit players. So I was just very surprised that they ignored this case and I made this post so that people can show stars that we are expecting to keep their high level of security.

After this post all or the accounts locked their sharkscope except one. Why would they all of the sudden lock if they have nothing to hide?

Also was checking lobbies the other day and saw one of the accounts play while others didn't. Why for the last few months have they been playing together all the time and only after this post changed their "legit" strategy?

Colluding and still losing money ,dafuq idiot is this .Maybe some rich guy trying this for fun since hes investing so much money into multiple acc and still being that bad .

Yes that's exactly my intention for exposing this cheater. We should just keep the high expectations from Pokerstars and even though we can't catch all the cheaters but at least we should make their lifes more difficult whenever we can. If people will get banned and funds confiscated they will be hesitant to do so next time.

The screenshot from Sharkscope with 25 games on each account was just to show that after a month he is back doing the same stuff. I remember he was profitable if you combine all his accounts.