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Old 08-31-2020, 07:42 AM   #1
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Pokerstars exiting China, Taiwan and Macau

Haven't seen this been posted

I googled it and couldn't find anything

but a couple people seemed to have receive email regarding this matter

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Old 08-31-2020, 08:13 AM   #2
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rut roh, this is another blow
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Old 08-31-2020, 09:39 AM   #3
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I have never had a player at my table from those locations
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Old 08-31-2020, 09:45 AM   #4
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these markets are quite important, china for small stakes and HS/noseblees, macau for HS/nosebleeds and taiwan for its young players. and ive seen players from each at the tables on stars i think, especially china
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Old 08-31-2020, 09:48 AM   #5
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:05 AM   #6
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GG will consolidate as 1st

Pokerstars is the new Partypoker

China is HUGE
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:05 AM   #7
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I have never had a player at my table from those locations
What do you play? China atleast used to be pretty big market and some might remember that they removed the don sngs from stars. And just checked there are chinese players in every zoom nl pool. I mean if you have played 15 years seems kind of strange if you never played against a chinese player.

Btw is this regulation situation? Other sites will follow? Like gg?
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:07 AM   #8
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What do you play? China atleast used to be pretty big market and some might remember that they removed the don sngs from stars. And just checked there are chinese players in every zoom nl pool. I mean if you have played 15 years seems kind of strange if you never played against a chinese player.

Btw is this regulation situation? Other sites will follow? Like gg?
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:10 AM   #9
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I have played a lot of those games when they used to run 247 without the current table limits and there were ton of chinese regs.
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:14 AM   #10
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Btw is this regulation situation? Other sites will follow? Like gg?
Regulation and GG on the same phrase?

Probably GG is behind it, their chinese high stakes players are all close friends of the CCP maybe they made Pokerstars go out
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:18 AM   #11
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Re: Pokerstars exiting China, Taiwan and Macau

haven't played in a while but at one point there were enough chinese ip players in the turbo sng streets that i often wasn't allowed to reg them because the country ip quota had already been filled
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Old 08-31-2020, 11:13 AM   #12
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yes, but it was difficult for Chinese players to deposit/withdrawal from what i understand.

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Probably GG is behind it, their chinese high stakes players are all close friends of the CCP maybe they made Pokerstars go out
Chinese government pushed against all kinds of gambling, and many (live) high stakes regulars had issues. even officials in high positions got problems b/c of gambling. why would the party (finally) get rid of an operator, but still allow GGP (or the poker club apps) ... makes no sense at all. even if "their chinese high stakes players are all close friends of the CCP" would be true.

most likely reason is the US market (sports betting) and regulatory issues. there were similar incidents were operators left countries b/c they applied in the US or UK. if GGP still wants a foot on the US market (like DNegs said), i wouldn't be surprised if they will follow soon ... at least officially.
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Old 08-31-2020, 11:30 AM   #13
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Deposits were often done via third parties and player transfers for Chinese so a lot of missed bonus whoring opportunities
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Old 08-31-2020, 11:56 AM   #14
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Regulation and GG on the same phrase?

Probably GG is behind it, their chinese high stakes players are all close friends of the CCP maybe they made Pokerstars go out
Gg doesn't allow all nationalities so yeah thought they might close doors allso.
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Old 08-31-2020, 12:34 PM   #15
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Tweets by: Patrick Leonard (poker player, partypoker ambassador)

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Old 08-31-2020, 12:51 PM   #16
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In a larger context it's remarkable that they're leaving Taiwan at the same time that they leave China. I suppose that even when leaving the chinese market pstars decides to abide by the one China policy. Likely to stay on the good side of China, long term

(not leaving Taiwan at the same time as leaving China could have implied they consider the two countries separate)
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:04 PM   #17
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I see that some Chinese players have made it to Day 2 in some of the WCOOP events. We'll see if they are sitting out when it starts back up in an hour.
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:08 PM   #18
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Seems like a number of sources have this info, myaccount is under China and I haven't received any emails and can see Chinese players playing tournies.
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:12 PM   #19
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Just FYI, apart from the standard Pokerstars.com client, Pokerstars have been running a special skin for China in corporation with a SEA company called 6up since several years ago. The 6up skin shares the .com player pool and it offers different deposit/withdrawal options than .com client. At the moment, customer support of 6up claims that Chinese players on their skin are supposed not to be affected. So if you see Chinese players playing in the following days, they should come from that skin.
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:35 PM   #20
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:58 PM   #21
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Re: Pokerstars exiting China, Taiwan and Macau

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Just FYI, apart from the standard Pokerstars.com client, Pokerstars have been running a special skin for China in corporation with a SEA company called 6up since several years ago. The 6up skin shares the .com player pool and it offers different deposit/withdrawal options than .com client. At the moment, customer support of 6up claims that Chinese players on their skin are supposed not to be affected. So if you see Chinese players playing in the following days, they should come from that skin.
So maybe(hopefully) more of a protectionist move like Tiktok has to do if they wanna keep serving the US customers? So chop it up and keep more of the revenue/data of the region inside the region.
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Old 08-31-2020, 02:11 PM   #22
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Just FYI, apart from the standard Pokerstars.com client, Pokerstars have been running a special skin for China in corporation with a SEA company called 6up since several years ago. The 6up skin shares the .com player pool and it offers different deposit/withdrawal options than .com client. At the moment, customer support of 6up claims that Chinese players on their skin are supposed not to be affected. So if you see Chinese players playing in the following days, they should come from that skin.
Really hope you're right on this one. China is a sleeping giant and just needs a strong operator to step up and have good game security/integrity.

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Old 08-31-2020, 02:52 PM   #23
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:45 AM   #24
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Re: Pokerstars exiting China, Taiwan and Macau

I play from Taiwan. Also received a similar email, with much less details.

Ironically, after playing exclusively in Pokerstars since years ago, I had withdrawn all my bankroll one week ago and moved it to another site as a protest against their software bugs and their insulting customer service.


Important news about your PokerStars account

Following a recent review, access to our platform is being prohibited in your region from September 1, 2020.

Your player balance remains safe and secure, and you may withdraw your balance at any time.

All entries to poker tournaments that have yet to start will be refunded and all non-promotional tickets have been converted into cash and added to your balance.

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Old 09-01-2020, 06:00 AM   #25
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In a larger context it's remarkable that they're leaving Taiwan at the same time that they leave China. I suppose that even when leaving the chinese market pstars decides to abide by the one China policy. Likely to stay on the good side of China, long term

(not leaving Taiwan at the same time as leaving China could have implied they consider the two countries separate)
I don't think it has nothing to do with that.

Just consider the amount of websites/services banned in China that are not banned in Taiwan. Not like CCP is going to care about Taiwanese citizens being able to access a website/platform that Chinese citizens can't.

While they do expect the whole world to pretend they believe Taiwan is a breakaway province of PRC, they don't act as if they had any power in Taiwan.
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