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Old 09-30-2014, 06:32 PM   #126
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With more desperate players with nothing to do, this will only increase terrorism.

WHY DO YOU HELP ISIS POKERSTARS?
May GOD have mercy on our rolls.
There I said it.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:39 PM   #127
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Could this all be a part of a deal Amaya made to get access to US? Some antiterrorist bull**** from whoever they negotiate with?
At the player meetings in NJ the poker stars reps did say they wanted P2P transfers when getting back into the USA market and was something they would lobby for if they got a seat at the table...... They did bring up that the government will likely not allow P2P transfers due to fear of money laundering and fear it could be a way to fund terrorists....... saying that they made a deal though is pure speculation
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:41 PM   #128
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The thing is though if you are Poker Stars would you rather be able to get back in the USA market or keep those countries listed that the just stop offering real money play to.... If i were them i would glady get rid of those listed countries to get back the USA player pool..... USA player pool? or

Turkey ,Malaysia, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Egypt, Qatar, Jordan, Kuwait, Senegal, Nigeria, Tanzania, United Republic of Bahrain, Afghanistan, Occupied Palestinian Territory, Kenya, Mozambique, Rwanda, Holy See (Vatican City) Iran, Iraq, Syria, Zimbabwe, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, Cuba, Myanmar, Yemen player pool? which one is more valuable?
no doubt that it is a smart decision to not risk to get back on the US market. but what sucks is that the DOJ and the conditions they are setting affect also other parts of the world. so whats our benefit in europe? player pools get even smaller. the us will have their own market and player pool anyways so why would i care?
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:47 PM   #129
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no doubt that it is a smart decision to not risk to get back on the US market. but what sucks is that the DOJ and the conditions they are setting affect also other parts of the world. so whats our benefit in europe? player pools get even smaller. the us will have their own market and player pool anyways so why would i care?
If you follow senator ray lesniak of NJ though, he doesn't just want the USA market for Pokerstars either. He wants NJ market to pool with other countries also. This might be good news if the dropping of these markets will lead to the USA joining the ROW player pool now... granted probably still far off in the future...
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:50 PM   #130
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no doubt that it is a smart decision to not risk to get back on the US market. but what sucks is that the DOJ and the conditions they are setting affect also other parts of the world. so whats our benefit in europe? player pools get even smaller. the us will have their own market and player pool anyways so why would i care?
I know the US is the centre of the universe but this is more about the UK rules than speculative stuff re bad actor in New Jersey.

The worry here is the lack of a real list. William Hill back in March left 55 markets that have a lot of cross over with this BTW, but they gave us a list.

The Stars FAQ is carefully done to not include a country list or even name your own country, for me that reeks of a rolling programme not a one off.

The focus here is Canada but Aus and Russia are the clearer cases that sit with this group of countries in terms of their laws.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:54 PM   #131
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Are you sure? In the NK press they are reporting that "gordiju" is Kim Jong-un and he has only ever played 3 tournaments.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:55 PM   #132
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Does anyone here worry that pokerstars will leave Canada soon?
I don't think they are going to wait a day and announce another round just to get a few more hours rake from Canadians.

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Would you mind expounding a bit? If it ties in with UK/NJ/USA (which we agree it clearly does) why wouldn't black/white have anything to do with it?
Wow I totally misread your post. Please disregard.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:57 PM   #133
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I have a feeling pokerstars is taking an extreme stance on them possibly being used as a money launder scheme for ISIL and thus is banning countries where the majority of people are muslim.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:00 PM   #134
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I have a feeling pokerstars is taking an extreme stance on them possibly being used as a money launder scheme for ISIL and thus is banning countries where the majority of people are muslim.
The Vatican?
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:02 PM   #135
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I'm in Malaysia but originally from UK. This sucks balls.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:04 PM   #136
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I have a feeling pokerstars is taking an extreme stance on them possibly being used as a money launder scheme for ISIL and thus is banning countries where the majority of people are muslim.
I'm beginning to think people actually think they are singling out Muslims and terrorists and aren't just trolling.......
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:07 PM   #137
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Keep up the good work Amaya!
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:20 PM   #138
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My guess is that the banking systems of these countries are just too shady to continue offering services. Especially if they are trying to enter the US market, they have to be careful about allowing countries which are known to funnel terrorist money.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:23 PM   #139
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Welcome to "legal" and "regulated" poker.
The affected jurisdictions reportedly include Afghanistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Cuba, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kenya, Kuwait, Malaysia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Zimbabwe, the occupied territory of Palestine and Vatican City.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:26 PM   #140
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lol half of our banks has europian and usa partners.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:28 PM   #141
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This is disgusting. I'm from Egypt and we have a large number of online players here. In fact, there are hundreds of really old school regulars (since the Party Poker days).

What's even more baffling is that Egypt has over 25 casinos. These things are never a problem here. Banks are okay for us to use our credit cards for gambling and all the rest of it.

The most annoying thing out of all of this is that countries in my region like Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria are still permissible to play on Stars and Tilt.

Gambling is banned in Algeria and Tunisia only has 3 casinos in 2 cities!

Freaking ridiculous.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:44 PM   #142
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No doubt in my mind that the United States government is behind this. Too much of a coincidence with pokerstars headed into the New Jersey market and this quote from New Jersey State Senator Raymond Lesniak, "“… Soon to be countries!” Funny how everything played out after Black Friday until now.
OMG, and yet another reason for the hatred to spew our way. Is it possible that online poker restrictions bring armageddon upon us.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:57 PM   #143
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who will get those players? LOLparty?? ipoker??
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:59 PM   #144
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Hello PPA. I believe you have some new recruits. I think PPA members need a team nickname. I like The Malmuthians. I'm just not sure what our mascot would be.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:01 PM   #145
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No doubt in my mind that the United States government is behind this. Too much of a coincidence with pokerstars headed into the New Jersey market and this quote from New Jersey State Senator Raymond Lesniak, "“… Soon to be countries!” Funny how everything played out after Black Friday until now.
I came to post this. These are all countries that the US says are home to turrists so the land of the free probably demanded PS stop serving them.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:07 PM   #146
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I wonder how much of their overall player pool these countries represent?
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:27 PM   #147
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I wonder how much of their overall player pool these countries represent?
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:36 PM   #148
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I'm beginning to think people actually think they are singling out Muslims and terrorists and aren't just trolling.......
The list of nations tends to support the thinking does it not?
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:49 PM   #149
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This is a sick world we live in, and I'm not joking or leveling or anything.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:59 PM   #150
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This was the list of countries that Will Hill dropped in March in anticipation of the upcoming regulation.

Afghanistan, Belize, Cambodia, Chad, Gabon, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mali, Morocco, Niger, Samoa, Thailand, Uruguay, Algeria, Benin, Cameroon, Djibouti, Gambia, Haiti, Madagascar, Mozambique, Norfolk Island, Sao Tome and Principe, South Africa, Togo, Vanuatu, Anguilla, Botswana, Cape Verde Islands, Equatorial Guinea, Greenland, Laos, Malawi, Mongolia, Nepal, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Surinam, Tonga, Yemen, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Central African Republic, Ethiopia, Guinea, Lesotho, Maldives, Montserrat, Netherland Antilles, Saint Vincent And the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Swaziland and Uganda
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