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Old 09-30-2014, 01:26 PM   #26
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Re: POKERSTARS DOES NOT OFFER REAL MONEY GAMES IN YOUR AREA

@nrocme @Mubsy Bogues - sorry, I didn't realise they could have carried on.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:35 PM   #27
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Forgot to add in original post that i emailed stars to ask wtf is going on and why we weren't notified in advance as i cant even xfer money to other players i owe.

Will post what they say when i get response.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:40 PM   #28
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@nrocme @Mubsy Bogues - sorry, I didn't realise they could have carried on.

Yes, essentially, Pokerstars bypassed US law of debit transactions coded as gambling. They made it look like I bought goods through a processor in Australia I think. This was their (POKERSTARS) doing without my knowledge. They could have told me that I couldn't fund using debit and I could have still played (player to player, freerolls etc..).
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:41 PM   #29
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I'm guessing something similar has happened today with Iran.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:43 PM   #30
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im just saying there was no prior warning in USA either
But it was illegal in America....it is not illegal in Turkey.... the government of Turkey had no say in this.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:44 PM   #31
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Malaysia, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, Nigeria so far I have read from the other threads.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:46 PM   #32
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nvm
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:46 PM   #33
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We would like to get informed about the restriction.
Has Pokerstars made a deal with governments or they just wanted to leave the market?
Has Turkish government exercised power over Pokerstars?
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:49 PM   #34
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Very, very strange to give no notice if that's what happened. Sorry for your loss, op. Bad form by PS for sure.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:58 PM   #35
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We would like to get informed about the restriction.
Has Pokerstars made a deal with governments or they just wanted to leave the market?
Has Turkish government exercised power over Pokerstars?
I have family members part of AKP in Ankara. I just called and asked, they said they will look into it for me, but didn't hear anything about it recently.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:00 PM   #36
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Ironically, poker essentially was invented by ancient Iranians. The game was know as As-Nas. I did a paper on this in college. But hey, at least they lasted longer than the US. GG Iran.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:03 PM   #37
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Malaysia, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, Nigeria so far I have read from the other threads.
These are all black markets with pretty clear laws banning (or restricting to a state monopoly) all remote gambling.

Today was due to be the last day before the new UK licence regime kicked in, now that is postponned by a month but...
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:08 PM   #38
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We would like to get informed about the restriction.
Has Pokerstars made a deal with governments or they just wanted to leave the market?
Has Turkish government exercised power over Pokerstars?
Since it's so many different countries it's unlikely these countries did anything to bring about this action. It's Amaya legal department being nits.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:13 PM   #39
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I definitely picked a good time to come to Qatar(you can add it to the list) from Canada...Of course, I'm sure it'll be funnier when I get back to Canada and PS has withdrawn there too!
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:13 PM   #40
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If that really is the reason it is quite questionable.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:15 PM   #41
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I just cant really see pokerstars pulling out of any country without good cause look they don't provide poker to players out of the goodness of there heart they provide the service for the same reason every business does to make money.

without wanting to get to political i will just say that there has been significant Islamic uprising and movements through out the past few years. especially with ISis or however it is spelled. maybe they dont want to expose themselves to risks associated with that or maybe its technical legal issues.

pulling out means pokerstars get less money they need a good reason to do that.

Amaya has share holders and profit is an issue.

thus pokerstars probably had a good reason.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:17 PM   #42
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These are all black markets with pretty clear laws banning (or restricting to a state monopoly) all remote gambling.

Today was due to be the last day before the new UK licence regime kicked in, now that is postponned by a month but...
This isn't entirely true. There are multiple turkish websites where you can bet on sports like football.

Although yes gambling in Turkey is "illegal" the government more or less turns a blind eye on internet gambling.

I can't believe the Turkish government has had any say in this happening. I will have more concrete info in the next 24-48 hours, but just don't/can't believe the Turkish government had any influence over this decision.

Not only that but the pop up i received said "stars and 3rd party blah blah blah"

Kind of like the southpark where everything that came out of peoples mouth sounded like people taking a *****.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:24 PM   #43
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In before national intelligence confirms that ISIS was using stars/tilt to launder money from their nefarious activities.....
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:29 PM   #44
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I am waiting to read some corporate BS from the Stars representive here to why this was necessary. The ammount I have paid in rake over the years ought to give me that much... And I am sorry for you guys
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:33 PM   #45
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it is **** bull**** . wtf i m gonna do now. bc of visa situation cant move europe .

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Old 09-30-2014, 02:35 PM   #46
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Re: POKERSTARS DOES NOT OFFER REAL MONEY GAMES IN YOUR AREA

Might be a redundant question but has this affected Full Tilt too ?
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:37 PM   #47
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In before national intelligence confirms that ISIS was using stars/tilt to launder money from their nefarious activities.....
I would not be at all suprised if the US put heat on them cuz they think that is how ISIS is funded. Our government is stupid enough......
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:45 PM   #48
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it is **** bull**** . wtf i m gonna do now. bc of visa situation cant move europe .
Yea, i also feel bad for you and other Turkish supernovas. Its not so easy to move to Europe with a Turkish passport...


In other news, i haven't been able to login into my Full Tilt account for about 5-6 days. It keeps saying my password or account name is incorrect even though i know i am typing it in 10000% correct. I wonder if this is why i haven't been able to access because of this impending **** fest.

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Old 09-30-2014, 02:50 PM   #49
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I know folks are pissed but stop evading the profanity filter please.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:57 PM   #50
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I know folks are pissed but stop evading the profanity filter please.
Sorry, i will keep that in mind in the future, again apologies for that.

I just received an email from Pokerstars. They have COMPLETELY avoided answering my question.

I wrote this to them in original email...

"Dear pokerstars,

Can you please inform me why you ceased real money services in Turkey and why?

Also why I didn't recieve any prior warning to it being shut"


Here is their (for lack of better term) LOL answer.....

"Hello Eren,

Thank you for your email.

Please note our management team regularly reviews our operations along with independent 3rd party professionals to assess the business risks and opportunities for our brands on a market-by-market basis. Following our most recent review, it was determined that we would no longer offer real money games in Turkey starting today.

We apologize for this inconvenience, and hope you’ve enjoyed your experience with PokerStars. We invite you to continue playing with your existing account, where you can play for free or purchase Play Money chips.

Your account balance is completely safe. Our license in the Isle of Man requires us to keep player funds separate from the company’s operating funds. PokerStars has always complied with this requirement and continues to do so for all of our player deposits.

Your account will remain open and accessible, and your funds may be withdrawn at any time via the Cashier as usual.

You may find more information on this by visiting our FAQ section via the following link:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/jurisdiction-faq/

Please let us know if you have further questions, we will be happy to assist."


Way to avoid answering my question....
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