Hello my fellow poker players. There is a huge network of Russian poker players that are stealing millions from online poker players around the world. They are all working together to steal our money at the tables. They work day and night and Americas card room is doing nothing about it. Are they in on it??? My team and I have been investigating these people as best we can for the last six months. I am attaching the email I wrote ACR asking them to use their resources to link these people together. Not a single response!!!! I feel like I should let the public in on what we have discovered so you all can guard yourselves. No that the Casinos and Poker rooms are shut down more and more players are seeking online games. Some of us do this for a living and its not right that these large group are being allowed to operate without anyone protecting the innocent. Read my email and watch out brothers and sisters! Thanks.

Good afternoon. I would like to start by saying I love America's cardroom and I have been a huge advocate for you all for years. I have praised you all on my poker blog in front of thousands of my followers along other forms. That being said I would appreciate this email being taken into the upmost seriousness.

Me and my team have then taking notes and videos of certain players for the last 6 months on ACR site. We have prepared to put this out into the public on all the poker sites and forums. There is no way that America's cardroom does not know about this or YOU are letting it happen. As you can probably notice you cannot find any account associated with this email because this is Russian organized crime and I don't trust that America's cardroom does not know about it OR in on it and I do not want my family endangered buy them tracing my address through you all.

There are a group of Russian players that are all colluding against other players together. They steal hundreds of thousands of dollars if not Millions from innocent players and YOU all are allowing this to happen.

They steal blinds together. They re raise anyone who makes a small raise to get them to fold. If someone makes a decent-sized raise a lot of times they will reraise and then another player will re-raise again to make that person fold. Or if they both have a good hand they will team up on that person if the person does not fold. They squeeze you all they can.

These players appear to be playing against each other so that way they're undetectable but if all their money is going into one pot at the end of the day it doesn't matter if they play each other or not.

I would like a formal investigation against the following players. Note that there are actually more people in this group but I have CLEARLY identified the certain players as definitely being within this group. It should be very simple for you all to find out the facts because you all have all of their poker history on your site. If you all choose not to do so and launched a formal investigation then that means you all know about this and are allowing it. Like I said I will be putting this out into the public so if you all do the right thing and stop this then I will also put that out into the public that America's cardroom does not allow cheaters. I have a poker group with over 10,000 members and poker players. I have been in the poker industry for over 20 years.

Also it really upsets me that you all have not figured this out or are allowing it. It is not fair to normal players that just want to go online and either win or lose money. It's not leveling the playing field it is making it so these the group of Russian conspirators make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year if not more off of other innocent players that love the game of poker on your site. Especially now because the casinos are closed normal honest poker players that are just trying to make a living Flash have fun are having their livelihood and incomes stolen from them by these European colluders and thieves. Like I said you all have the tools to get down to the bottom of this and make the right decision for the honest poker players that love your site. I will be expecting an email from you all letting me know about the investigation so I can post that on to my poker blog with my 10000 plus followers also TwoPlusTwo, card chat and other poker forms.

The players are: ( colluders and cheaters)

Russian poker group


These players all play 1 / 2, 2/4, 3/6, 5/10, 10 / 20, 15 / 30

If you notice not only do these players all play different stakes but they ALWAYS play with each other at different stakes tables. The odds of this happening are in the Millions. I would appreciate if you all take this email seriously because this is Criminal. They are probably part of a criminal organization put together by mostly hackers and organized crime.

Thank you

If they're playing in a way that is undetectable how did you detect them?

No money in drugs and guns anymore so russian organized crime has moved to online poker.

Well that's a bit conspiracy oriented without much evidence. If you have a "team" you can at least join databases and filter for situations and see if squeeze numbers are out of wack compared to best winners on the stake, other pokersites, etc. As for regular players multitabling several stake limits that's normal, sitting scripts to have positions on tables and the like.

I also play some on WPN btw, I think you should only publicly acuse/disclose nicknames with better evidence.

is that it? just an accusation of some people squeezing a lot?

Somebody lock this garbage thread unless he chimes in and offers some kind of evidence. This post is slander without a shred of evidence or anything to clearly convict them of besides squeezing preflop

It’s trivially easy to grab bot statistics and show how similar they are. C’mon man!

On the one hand bot rings / cheaters going unpoliced on a site that has an online misdeal and struggles to keep its servers up seems highly likely.

On the other this post is low on info and high on crazy.

KEKW u can use real time game assistant and they continue colluding or organized stealing money.Who is an idiot like that ?.U need two computer = profit,u dont need group or colluder anymore in online scene.

i guess some live poker players in to the online poker after pandemic and get paranoid because they are play perfect with RTA and easy to blame they colluding or organized if you blame anyone blame acr or blame another network/software who is accept this fkcing RTA.

also imagine some poker apps banned russia/ukraine players (pokerbros) but big bossie networks dont do that.yeah i know big company dont do that because marketing strategy and money.partypoker cash game full of stable they fighting each other.stable also weekly coaching them and they become a sharp in this META and other groups blame them colluders,organized etc. also ggpoker to much agent account and gg network know that.if you player above 1/2$ u need to work on game with solver or coaching good pio user catch for META if you dishonorable person u can use RTA.

also network they know anything because they give permission.pokerbros banned suspicous country because they does not allow.

also i dont clearly discuss because my english not enough if my language harsh sorry about that.

yeah 888 im also very suspicious about the endless amounts of eastern euro accounts that play there.

Does anyone think he has a “team” or 10000 followers? I wonder what day this week he sent his email? It’s a good thing he started a gimmick account here to post this and hide his real ID from the Russian mob! Stay safe, OP!

I have removed names from OP.

OP, you need to post reasonable evidence before naming names.

We'll let this run for a bit to give you a chance to do this. If not it's getting locked up.

I've heard about how these teams work from former team members. It's not very complicated.

They 100% exist. Good luck getting people in this forum to to buy into the idea with only this post. Most of the people don't play ACR (this takes place on other sites as well), don't play cash games, don't have an idea of what is possible and don't care much either way. Why would the sites want to get rid of 20+ regular accounts keeping games running and contributing rake? This type of activity is taking place more with tournaments than cash but very profitable to do either way. It's incredibly easy to execute and the punishment is very small for the upside possible. If the site doesn't want to stop that type of activity or isn't capable of doing it, what will you do???

In before lock

OP I'll let you in on the secret. Since there are so few LHE games on ACR, if you play LHE you play every game that is running at the time. I play in those games, not as often as i would like but at least 2 days a week and i play in every LHE game starting from 3-6 up to 40-80. Yeah, there are plenty of Russian speaking players, but most of them are not actually from RF, but from Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and most of them are pretty aggressive. I am not sure how familiar you are with LHE but to an outsider, some of the best LHE games can look like sheer madness and most of those games are insanely aggressive. Unfortunately, Mods removed names of players you are suspecting of cheating, cause I'd be curious to see your list, but players pool is fairly small so you probably included all the regulars...all 7 or 8 of them.

This is exactly why I have been playing private clubs with people I know. Online is becoming so sketchy. Viideo chat makes colluding online so easy for those that want to. And I'm sure it's happening.

There was definitely a ring of Hs players from Russia about 7 yrs ago on 888.They were shady AF. Sitting in to play only the sb HU, sitting at new tables that was just created, few of them would sit, playing for free as 888 had a bug that you can play at new tables without posting a blind like a casino (not sure now, they would sit out when it's their turn to post the blinds. If they had to post the blind 1st hand, they wouldnt post the blind and leave. This was happening at PoF NL tables at $25/50 to 50/100 blinds. Man they fing shady, all similar playing style. I always felt like I was cheated by them. One other instant where I felt I was being cheated was on Pitbull poker, it was at lhe. Ended up being employees were playing with hole cards. I don't accuse ppl of being cheated very often, but definitely something going on. You just get this feeling, it's hard to describe.

Nothing worst than playing online with 5 other Russian besides you.... U hear what am saying?

yeah, tell me about it.

I’ve had this feeling a couple of times when there’s been 2 Ukrainians or Lithuanias on 6 max PLO tables on stars. Yeah the feeling is hard to describe but I trust it. They are simply card sharing. Something about the delays taken in certain spots triggers the feeling perhaps

I try not to sit with 2 from certain countries/prefer ZOOM for this reason

FO and FU cheats

Do you think the game looks like pure madness because when they play pots cheater vs cheater they bet, raise etc over all the streets to jack up their stats. Then when they are heads up with a mark they play totally different stats than it would appear they did?

Just curious

Do you think the game looks like pure madness because when they play pots cheater vs cheater they bet, raise etc over all the streets and then when they are heads up with a mark they play totally different stats than it would appear they did?

Just curious


If joey says they totally exist I dont feel like locking the thread right now would be a good idea.

Spotting collusion/botting in LHE is difficult and without mucked cards becomes even more difficult. Add in ACR support basically always saying "no we didnt see anything suspicious" to any and all inquiries, and you're pretty much ****ed. Add in that with variance and slight adjustments by your opponents you can get your head handed to you for hundreds if not thousands of hands while playing somewhat solid. Add in that LHE at any stakes online (but very much so at the mid/high stakes) is one of the most aggressive games ever, and it's going to be basically impossible without ACR's help to get anything other than frustrated over claims like this.
That all being said, in the year or so I played on there, I almost always came away from games feeling very "wtf", whether it was a winning or losing session. I have submitted potential superusers to ACR. I have pointed out bots that were also argued for by user Handofgod, who has been extremely fastidious in the Internet Poker thread presenting data based evidence of botting, and ACR has done nothing. Worse still, ACR made a large announcement of bot shutdowns and submitted 1 small wave of sacrificial lambs, and gave users fractions of the money they were cheated out of. After this it was radio silence. It was in effect "here's a couple bucks you broke **** we think this will make you shut up".
The difficult truth of the situation at ACR is one of most gambling ventures. The venue/company/site is not on your side. They are only operating to make money. They will not help you, and the botters/colluders are their customers, so turning a blind eye hurts real bad to the honest players, but is not wholly unexpected. Are they complicit? Yes. Are they the perpetrators? Likely not but there's no way to tell, and they'll never help.
The only positive solution is to boycott the site. They've had ample time to fix the situation, and cheating is not the only problem that ACR has sided against the player pool on. Their software update came with rampant disappearing funds, and rampant fudged numbers in rakeback payments, and for every player who noticed and had to harass support just to get their money back, there are likely hundreds that didn't. Where does that money go? Add in cancelling tournaments blatantly when the overlay was significant, and you are just running your patience and your dollars through a grinder by using the site. I would compare it to playing table games at a casino, or playing in games where the rake is unbeatable. Even players who are profitable on the site are earning less than they would were the site legit, and are taking a risk that many of them admit they would avoid if they had any other option to make a living.
So good luck, but you're not the first person to raise these concerns, and you're complaining to the people profiting from these issues.

No, not at all and this is not what OP is accusing them of doing. For an inexperienced LHE player cheating looks like a process where two or more players by raising and re-raising forcing a mark to fold a better hand. Yeah, it may happen once in the while but as a system that's pretty inefficient way to cheat and could get horribly expensive. I've seen it done against me in the live game and without hesitation continued playing against this type of team play.
In reality, the most efficient way of cheating in LHE is just by folding the second-best hand without seeing showdown or even better preflop. There is no defense against this form of cheating in the live game (unless you happen to catch them signaling or something) but luckily it is very easy to detect online.

Joey what are your thoughts on 2p2 dropping add revenue from ACR but replacing it with add revenue from Poker Bros?

ACR has cheating Russians? Oh did you know the sky is blue? Op tell us something we don’t know.