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omg, how can everyone here miss the key reason why DN and crew's behavior was 100% correct and how this shows how far out of it PH is. This lack of understanding explains some of the ****ty behavior I see at the tables in recent years.

Cash pros keep the fish happy!

Instead of making the dude think about his play or feel bad, DN and crew root for him because thats what smart cash players do. PH treats the whole thing as some great conspiracy against him and in doing so makes it even clearer than ever the he does not understand that 90% of the time poker is not about a battle of wits, its about keeping the fish in the game.

Could be a good theory, but i disagree. It was obvious than Negreanu and crew wanted to pound on Hellmuth. Negreanu never loses one occasion to belittle Hellmuth. It's almost an obsession. It's starting to be creepy in fact.

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06-14-2010 , 12:49 AM

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John Wray

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i love the neck roll gif, but it needs to be looped to be an infinite roll imo

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06-14-2010 , 01:01 AM

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T!ghterThanU

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ok guys new idea for pokerstars show 5 pros 5 amateurs double or nothing tournament. im tired of the old lets see if one guy can play the best shows. that would be more of a lets test the pros ability to overcame variance show. if they cant consistantly beat the game it would be great to atract fish, haven't seen the big hand yet anyone got a link.

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06-14-2010 , 01:15 AM

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ArcadianSky

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

So are you on the inside to know that Hellmuth is "the most disliked player in poker"? No? So, then don't write it as a fact.

That's really the best you could come up with?
What a tard post.

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06-14-2010 , 01:45 AM

#555

GiantWalleye

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lolololololol awesome. I can't believe PH talked that donk into running it 4 times with 2 outs and runner runner draws. He deserved to lose for that con job.

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06-14-2010 , 03:12 AM

#556

YaBoyINthe604

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funny but its the same old people always raggin on Phil on tv and it does get old, DN and Laak say the stupidest things at least Tony G's belittlement makes good tv, Laak n DN just seem so 2003

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06-14-2010 , 03:43 AM

#557

Hoopie1

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

Is generous and honest (UB is another story).

BAD : Is a bad loser, takes it too personal, is insecure. Isn't that good at cash games.

It's clearly worth hating on the guy.

Any reason why his continued endorsement of UB isn't considered bad?

Apart from the genocide, I heard Pol Pot was a decent guy too.

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06-14-2010 , 08:10 AM

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Ophidion

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Originally Posted by Hoopie1

Any reason why his continued endorsement of UB isn't considered bad?

Apart from the genocide, I heard Pol Pot was a decent guy too.

LOL +1

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06-14-2010 , 09:20 AM

#559

LouKadeez

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

So are you on the inside to know that Hellmuth is "the most disliked player in poker"? No? So, then don't write it as a fact.

I do have first hand information.

I worked for several years as a supervisor at the WSOP. During that time I became friendly with a number of the players, both famous and unknown. PH, the douchebag, was disliked by more players than anyone else. He was thought of as a pompous bully and a show off. He was widely reviled by the pros.

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06-14-2010 , 10:14 AM

#560

BigZap

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This is one of my favorite clips of all time!! It will make me watch the show now, guess it did the job.

Zap

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06-14-2010 , 11:33 AM

#561

Jon Bradshaw

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Originally Posted by Lanzalot

Does not act like a childish douche in the clip:

[ ] the Cannon
[ ] Daniel
[ ] Phil Laak
[ ] Tony G
[ ] Phil Hellmuth, Jr.
[x] Doyle

he only not happy cos the guy ewas black and doyle is an obvious racist

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06-14-2010 , 01:29 PM

#562

Nude Satellite

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I dont post much but I could not hold back giving my 2 cents. First of all, if it were a home game or just any other non televised high stakes game, Phil Laak and Daniel would be out of line. But it IS on TV and the goal is to entertain and be funny. So Phil and Daniel KNOW that everyone at home is rooting for the suckout. PH calls people idiots and bashes them on TV more then anyone, that is fine and I have no problem with it. But when you do that you HAVE TO expect the same trash talk back. If it were Jesus or another polite player I could understand the outrage but cmon guys its PH. If anyone deserves to get made fun of its him.

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06-14-2010 , 01:40 PM

#563

daytorrent

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How long before the 1st episode is aired?

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06-14-2010 , 02:24 PM

#564

moki

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Originally Posted by Ophidion

What planet do you live on?

The comment was obviously racialized(not necessarily racist). The intent was to point out the Loose Cannons blackness.

> Meaning it looks like his cold calling range?

Why wouldn't it look like any of the other 2 players in pots calling ranges?

What would lead Hellmuth to conclude that the flop connects with the Loose Cannons cold calling range altogether?

Thinking a flop such as 9T9 connects with 1 villains CCR, while he is holding A9, and also while 2 other players are in the hand is ridiculous. It's totally illogical.

Not to mention that Hellmuth probably has no conception of what calling ranges are, to direct a comment towards such a player who obviously would have no understanding what he means, again, would make no sense.

What would make sense, and what DID make sense, was the shared understanding that the flop had a black bored texture, like that of the Loose Cannons skin color.

Red journalism, ITT.

Oh wait, that's racist too.

Black Irish. White washed. Yellow journalism. Purple horseshoes, green clovers, and the ridiculous search of perceived insults.

Some people spend most of their lives looking for insults/affronts where they don't exist. Reminds me of the mother who protested the use of the word "*****rdly" simply because she had no idea what it meant (or the word's etymology).

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06-14-2010 , 05:11 PM

#565

leolauzon

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Originally Posted by Hoopie1

Any reason why his continued endorsement of UB isn't considered bad?

Apart from the genocide, I heard Pol Pot was a decent guy too.

Very ingenious to bring genocides in the equation. It makes total sense in this context.

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06-14-2010 , 05:49 PM

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PokerStars Steve

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Originally Posted by daytorrent

How long before the 1st episode is aired?

Depends on where you live, but roughly 9-11 hours.

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06-14-2010 , 06:05 PM

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Kevmath

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Even shorter if you're in Canada (sportsnet.ca).

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06-14-2010 , 06:17 PM

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lookitdisnub

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pats j9 vs sammys kq is way sicker. this is just funny cause it's phil getting sucked out on

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06-14-2010 , 07:40 PM

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mook300

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Its on right now in Canada

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06-14-2010 , 09:16 PM

#570

mymoneypls

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Amazing leak. After the 3rd run Phil looked like he just watched someone run over his dog.

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06-14-2010 , 09:47 PM

#571

RanchDressin

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man that was so epic

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06-14-2010 , 10:51 PM

#572

Stabzilla

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This is the best ever!

Thank you for making my day.

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06-14-2010 , 11:04 PM

#573

PoseidonCubed

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Amazing. Whenever I'm on tilt or having a bad day from now on, I know what video I'm watching.

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06-14-2010 , 11:33 PM

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moki

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Not shown until 2:00am in my area, but at least it appears to be shown (not all Fox affiliates have picked it up); you can see the schedule here:

http://thebiggame.pokerstars.net/episodes/

(scroll to the bottom and pick a state)

Unlikely I'll be up that late, so I'll have to catch it on the morrow.