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02-06-2019 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
You still havent sold me on an upside
Tables are still going to fill within a few seconds, at least at 1k+, I'd gladly bet on that
The only difference will be a few cheaters will be gaining a huge advantage
for breaking the rules.

And Pinkman, yeah, you maybe have to wait 30seconds somtimes, but its really not that bad
Remember that before the changes every table was reserveblocked for like 15 minutes?
And you don't think that if tables fill within seconds that Stars will know those people are using seating scripts and then ban them?

-BD
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02-06-2019 , 08:22 AM
Thats the whole issue. Joining fast doesn't equal using a script, yet everyone will think so and bombard support with accusations. Stars then will get loads of criticism on their over or under enforcement.
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02-06-2019 , 09:22 PM
Tables on mid/highstakes will fill within seconds, even if noone is actually using a script
Thats the point I keep trying to make. It wont improve the experience for Recs. It will only give a few people who will find away to bypass those rules a HUGE advantage.
Seat Me on the other hand actually would have improved the experience for Recs. Even if people would still be bumhunting at tables without Recs would instantly die, it wouldnt look so obvious to them, since they would never see it.
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02-25-2019 , 06:56 PM
almost 1 march, whats gonna happen?
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02-26-2019 , 01:36 AM
the only thing that really improves the experience for recs is playing in an environment with a higher balance of recs to regs. if your opponents mistakes help balance out your own then your loss rate decreases significantly
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02-26-2019 , 01:52 AM
https://gyazo.com/fa6a7a36576ff3083736c4281f27a0ed so its 1st of march they implement this or what?
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02-26-2019 , 03:31 AM
The only change March 1 is what your software is allowed to do. IIRC you are not allowed to use software to sit that reacts to a color tag or lack of one.

Let the war begin between cheaters with a 2s seating delay and the guys with fast fingers.
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02-26-2019 , 06:53 AM
maybe people will start tables 4 handed again without grimming? loved those days
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02-26-2019 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinkmann
The only change March 1 is what your software is allowed to do. IIRC you are not allowed to use software to sit that reacts to a color tag or lack of one.
How do you know this?
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02-26-2019 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinkmann
Let the war begin between cheaters with a 2s seating delay and the guys with fast fingers.
I'd happily take that over the current situation. It's at least a slightly fairer fight.
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02-26-2019 , 10:09 AM
isn't it already what most scripts do? insta seat when a reserved seat pops up?

it doesn't appear it will make much of a difference sadly
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02-26-2019 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
How do you know this?
Stars released some document that I'm unable to find atm and thats what I remember it saying. Also you can have software auto sit you, for example you can tell a program to sit when 3 people are sat it just cant be tag related.

I'm assuming auto reserving for an R is also banned. So tables shouldnt be R blocked anymore but obviously games are still gonna fill up fast.
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02-26-2019 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinkmann
Stars released some document that I'm unable to find atm and thats what I remember it saying. Also you can have software auto sit you, for example you can tell a program to sit when 3 people are sat it just cant be tag related.

I'm assuming auto reserving for an R is also banned. So tables shouldnt be R blocked anymore but obviously games are still gonna fill up fast.
There's nothing in their Terms of Service or Prohibited Programs page that reflect this.
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02-26-2019 , 11:13 AM
Yeah probably bc its not March 1 yet
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02-28-2019 , 06:03 AM
It appears that last night, PokerStars finally got around to making an effort to inform the people who are primarily affected by the policy - players.

You can read their belated announcement here: https://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/bl...--179741.shtml
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02-28-2019 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
Tables on mid/highstakes will fill within seconds, even if noone is actually using a script
Not true. It takes quite a while for the HUNL ZOOM lobby to fill up when a rec joins. There's even been times where I've seen a reg previously holding the lobby now battling solo against a rec that joined @ 5k or 10k for 10min+
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02-28-2019 , 06:40 AM
You cant be serious. High stakes zoom HU is one of the most dead game types on the site and isn't even close to comparable to 6m non zoom where fish constantly sit and an army of grinders are constantly competing for seats.

Games will fill in 10s max during peak times at MSNL instead of microseconds. Probably most games will fill so fast that it will seem like its scripting, but really it'll just be a speedy click war mixed with the occasional cheater.

I'm also guessing there is no rule against software moving a table in a monitoring stack front and center for you to manually join when a fish tag sits.

So yeah nothing gonna change except for the R circle jerk thing.

Last edited by Pinkmann; 02-28-2019 at 06:58 AM.
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02-28-2019 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinkmann
You cant be serious. High stakes zoom HU is one of the most dead game types on the site and isn't even close to comparable to 6m non zoom where fish constantly sit and an army of grinders are constantly competing for seats.

Games will fill in 10s max during peak times at MSNL instead of microseconds. Probably most games will fill so fast that it will seem like its scripting, but really it'll just be a speedy click war mixed with the occasional cheater.

I'm also guessing there is no rule against software moving a table in a monitoring stack front and center for you to manually join when a fish tag sits.

So yeah nothing gonna change except for the R circle jerk thing.
the only reason HUNL zoom and 6m reg tables aren't comparable is because, afaik, there aren't scripts for HUNL zoom (pls correct me if I'm wrong).

HS HUNL ZOOM is not dead on PS, how could it be when the highest wr's vs recs are achieved in HU and there are daily fish there @ 5k and 10k? do you even follow the action? quite often the HSNL ring game lobby has 0 games above 1k, yet there'll be action @ either 5k or 10k HUNL. quite often being almost every day.

despite all of this, you're probably still right about games filling up instantly (seconds instead of microseconds), as it'll incentivise regs to actually watch the lobby, which I don't think happens very often atm.
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02-28-2019 , 09:33 AM
I'm shocked that fish are a daily thing at HU high stakes.

A custom script wouldnt be a bad idea just to scan the HU lobby, and I'm sure someone somewhere has that ability.
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02-28-2019 , 10:17 AM
What about stars sending C&D to the softwares supporting this?
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02-28-2019 , 02:00 PM
Why are HUDs still allowed? If you go on twitch to watch poker, all the regs have HUDs up with tons of statistics and it makes it seem like you have no chance if you are a rec player who just wants to play poker.

I really hope the Phil Galfond style poker sites catch on, where everyone is anonymous, there is no bumhunting and HUDs are banned or useless.
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03-09-2019 , 05:55 AM
I thought they were banning scripts but they seem as rampant as ever. Some times hard to even get sat down at regular tables due to this.
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03-09-2019 , 07:47 AM
The thread title is bad and the linked article in the OP was just fake news.

Pokerstars now is a massive game of musical chairs, and the music stops when a fish sits.
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03-09-2019 , 07:54 AM
scripts are still allowed but not to sit vs color-tags
now they just sit vs every reserved seat or newly sat player, making it 100% worse
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03-09-2019 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
scripts are still allowed but not to sit vs color-tags
now they just sit vs every reserved seat or newly sat player, making it 100% worse
Atleast we get chests AMIRITE
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