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11-27-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SuitedJunk
Monetized or not, players in a casino should not be filmed or photographed without their consent. Should not be allowed to film in a casino without the casinos consent either.

I filmed an interview of a player in a casino once... in order to do it by a gaming machine they closed off the entire section so no one could be in the shot, even passing behind. (It was a vegas property I dont recall which).
We will probably have to agree to disagree on this.

People film inside casinos all the time now and it will greatly increase in the future when wearable cams and bionic implants become the norm. Vegas is a huge tourist destination where people are constantly filming and the importance of gaming continues to diminish. I certainly expect casinos to lighten their stance on filming in the future.

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Originally Posted by Gzesh
OTOH, the statute Dream Crusher cites for Nevada does prohibit fellatio, cunnilingus or anal intercourse in public. No mention of other indecent acts in public, curiously.

"NRS 201.190  Commission of certain sexual acts in public: Definition; penalty.  
Except as otherwise provided in NRS 200.366 and 201.230, a person of full age who commits anal intercourse, cunnilingus or fellatio in public is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130."

I do not know how Dream Crusher concludes these acts are illegal in a casino because a casino is "public", but I'll take his word for it.
You're a lawyer, so if you can't figure it out maybe you should seek a new profession.
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11-27-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SuitedJunk
Inside the doors of a Casino is not a public place.
It may not be a public place but you don’t have a reasonable expectation of privacy when you enter a casino.
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11-27-2018 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trob888
It may not be a public place but you don’t have a reasonable expectation of privacy when you enter a casino.
A casino floor is most definitely a public place though. People seem to confuse "public space" with "public place" and assume privately owned properties can not be in public.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/p/public-place/
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11-27-2018 , 06:18 PM
All the time while playing craps at Caesars early 2000s I saw staff tell people not to film in the casino while walking through... they were using cameras, not phones that's all that has changed.
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11-27-2018 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
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You're a lawyer, so if you can't figure it out maybe you should seek a new profession.
Just baiting you.....

(I once successfully defended a mob guy, and poker player, who had been busted in the act in a parked car behind a building under construction.

He got off twice is my guess.)
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11-27-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
A casino floor is most definitely a public place though. People seem to confuse "public space" with "public place" and assume privately owned properties can not be in public.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/p/public-place/
.... except that the Nevada Supreme Court has ruled that First Amendment Rights do not extend onto the Mirage property. See, post 96, above:

SOC, Inc v Mirage Casino Hotel, https://law.justia.com/cases/nevada/...1/34563-1.html

If you are interested in the actual, relevant law, try reading that linked Nevada case.
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11-27-2018 , 06:25 PM
Some info here on bringing cameras to casino floor including table games (which is what poker is)

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/ques...ing-slot-play/


Found a bunch of other discussions on the subject just searching "can I take pictures in a casino" or similar etc...
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11-27-2018 , 06:30 PM
This one is specific to Poker Vloggers...

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/w...oggers-_99100/
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11-27-2018 , 06:32 PM
One of the problems with live streaming is someone underage and not in Nevada can be calling the action.
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11-27-2018 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SuitedJunk

This was a good thread specifically on this subject and specifically mentioned the Aria poker rooms stance on vlogging.
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11-28-2018 , 12:21 PM
Ding ... time to stir the pot ....

A business can be 'open to the public' and yet have restrictions/rules in place that may be more stringent (but not violate) a state or federal law. It's as simple as a restaurant requiring shirt/shoes for service (or even a shirt/tie in some establishments or a collared shirt at a golf course).

I go into customer's facilities all the time that have restrictions on photography. It came to a head one day when I was looking a project over and taking a video which they wanted deleted .. I promptly told them .. "I'm an invited contractor trying to quote a project. I need the video so we can quote the best price. Still hissy ... I whacked them over the head with this ...
1) We already have a non-disclosure document in place between our companies!
2) We built this equipment before it was installed here! We still have all the prints, I'm just noting some of the changes the have been made since installation.

I'm not sure the actual reason why casinos are so wary of photos/video but I've been told at one casino that if you hit the BBJ and whip out your phone to take a shot of the Board that it could be voided.

Back this whole 30 post issue up for a sec ...
1) Enter a business with a photo/video policy
2) Someone violates policy
3) Person has issue with the violation
4) Person can address issue with the business and the violator by whatever means they choose.

If the business policy was violated and a patron feels 'damaged' somehow then they don't need state law to create a stir ... Just sue the business for not enforcing their own policy and toss in the violator for good measure to collect 'damages'.

You may say that's a stretch, but does a casino really want ticky tacky suits popping up over this stuff?

I saw one of Troopers videos from Hammond, IN and he did a great job of not showing any faces ... but I'll be damned if I didn't recognize the tat on the hand of the guy to his right! Didn't need facial recognition software for that one ... GL
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11-28-2018 , 01:22 PM
could we please have fewer post about legal matters and more posts from hoooooooon ?

I'm not sure we ever resolved his issues
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11-28-2018 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
A business can be 'open to the public' and yet have restrictions/rules in place that may be more stringent (but not violate) a state or federal law. It's as simple as a restaurant requiring shirt/shoes for service (or even a shirt/tie in some establishments or a collared shirt at a golf course).
Those examples seem a bit different but I think we are all in agreement that a casino can kick you out for filming.

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I go into customer's facilities all the time that have restrictions on photography. It came to a head one day when I was looking a project over and taking a video which they wanted deleted .
That sounds like a private facility. I'm guessing I wouldn't be able to just walk in there off the streets if I wanted to.

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Originally Posted by answer20
I'm not sure the actual reason why casinos are so wary of photos/video but I've been told at one casino that if you hit the BBJ and whip out your phone to take a shot of the Board that it could be voided.
Casinos will try to prevent you from making money in any way possible if they can get away with it. That being said, at my casino there are all sorts of rumors about things that can void the bad beat but you know what? The bad beat has never been voided there! Those rumors, told to the dealers by management, is simply a way for the poker room to more easily enforce rules...because no degenerate wants to void the bad beat.


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Originally Posted by answer20
I saw one of Troopers videos from Hammond, IN and he did a great job of not showing any faces ... but I'll be damned if I didn't recognize the tat on the hand of the guy to his right! Didn't need facial recognition software for that one ... GL
Don't be narc'ing on the trooper bro. He goes hard.
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