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07-20-2019 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
This is almost as good as that PokerNews article that recommended selling your blood plasma and using pawn shops to stay in action: https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/i...egas-34153.htm
Plagiarizing the plot of Let it Ride
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07-20-2019 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by btc
Plagiarizing the plot of Let it Ride
Underrated movie btw. But that's just my opinion.
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07-20-2019 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
I concur. Moreover, if anything the condition imho should be labeled PBPD - "Poker Blood Pressure Disorder". (Full tilt = High Blood Pressure for many I would surmise especially when losing frequently from suck outs as bad as opponents who win against you with only a 1% chance on the river for instance.)
Stress hormone intoxication is what it is. It can be neutralized with breathing exercises or physical exercise.



If Leather ass took a break every hour to do breathing exercises his stroke risks would drop dramatically.
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07-20-2019 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Stress hormone intoxication is what it is. It can be neutralized with breathing exercises or physical exercise.



If Leather ass took a break every hour to do breathing exercises his stroke risks would drop dramatically.
Is it hormone related to gender/sex? If so, which one? Testosterone or estrogen? If the former, that means males are more susceptible than females. Then, that means females just found another weak point against we males in the game. Uh oh.
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07-20-2019 , 12:12 PM
its cortisol, not testosterone or estrogen
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07-20-2019 , 01:30 PM
'Not to diminish the effects and consequences of actual war..'

Proceeds to do exactly that
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07-20-2019 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl
Those who are pros, do you actually think back long term on rough patches and actually feel traumatized, other than just wishing people didn't suckout and having regrets about how u played hands?
lol no
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07-20-2019 , 03:44 PM
It's probably a much more common issue for guys who played throughout their twenties. Just speaking from my own example I basically operate in 3 states that is numb/alert/anxious. Alert when something goes against my will and I begin leveraging the situation. Anxiety is kind of random but definitely peaks during social interactions, even more so when I'm unable to figure out what reaction is expected from me. 99.9% of the times I'm just completely indifferent towards everything around me, I keep pretending though as much I can but inside I'm like "yeah whatever".

I don't mind being this way, but I understand how it is just ****ing weird and what impression I make, especially when anxiety kicks in or keeping a straight face when being told the best/worst news in the world.

And yes, I too somewhat suspect playing tournament games on an excess amount of tables for almost over a decade was a contributing factor to this.

Last edited by Hot*ShoT; 07-20-2019 at 03:56 PM.
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07-20-2019 , 05:34 PM
Losing nerve is more like what happens to beginners. The statistical things getting clear can help (math, tracking site of result) and there are some psychological solutions that you probably need to find yourself.

Playing too much can result in a twilight state of the mind where one is under the dark side feelings; a year or two of grinding it out can help as can a more balanced life (additionally).
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07-21-2019 , 06:43 AM
It's bizarre to see the Stars Group publishing an article like this which seems to try to convert people with the symptoms of serious problem gambling disorders into more active poker players.

I hope that this is just some sort of junior editor making a dumb decision rather than a deliberate strategic decision.
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07-21-2019 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
This is nothing but poor journalism designed to get clicks.
Exactly this, it's a ****ty clickbait title designed to draw people into reading a poorly written article.

I got in a serious car wreck a few years back and had flashbacks/nightmares for a few years, and I still panic now when certain things happen while I'm riding in a car. Even so, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be diagnosed with PTSD. In an even less serious vein, bad beats or whatever are highly unlikely to cause anything like the PTSD that comes from things like violent crime or wartime experiences*.
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07-21-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by VtheVictim
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be diagnosed with PTSD. In an even less serious vein, bad beats or whatever are highly unlikely to cause anything like the PTSD that comes from things like violent crime or wartime experiences*.
Yeah, that'd be a tad far too ridiculous getting PTSD from poker, still playing for years definitely changed a lot of players in some way and perhaps not for the better when it comes to private life.
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07-22-2019 , 04:34 AM
Isnt there degrees of PTSD? Money matters a lot to quality of life so I don’t see why not losing high EV pots unluckily that could drastically effect your net worth could be extremely traumatic for some people. I dont see why that trivialises wartime PTSD, it’s just differently traumatic

PTSD isn’t just caused by things you witnessed passively or bad things that happened to you. In wartime in particular it’s often caused by the things the PTSD sufferer DID
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07-22-2019 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by IsdImCallnNOTAllin
Hypothetically, err or comically, if players could receive disability benefits for this PTSD, then they would still take that money to the poker table.

But then again, years ago, drug addicts/alcoholics that couldn't work due to their addiction were getting disability money from the government (and of course used it to buy more).
Poker players could get disability for PSTD if it is sufficiently incapcitating. PSTD is the effect of the event on the person and NOT a measure of the event itself.

Drug addicts still get SSI or SSD (forget which) for the effects of their addiction and lifestyle quite often. They simply can't get it for drug or alcohol addiction by itself.

I never tried to get it (though I could) because that is how lazy I am. Pathetic piece of crap that is.
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07-22-2019 , 02:05 PM
I lost a few massive pots over a couple day span in comparison to what I normally play and it kind of shell shocked me for a couple months. I was a little scared to get deep even tho I’ve always thrived at deep play. Was 2nd guessing myself in lots of spots. Went away after a couple months and getting my confidence back. Still wouldn’t call it ptsd but it was definitely something
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07-22-2019 , 05:10 PM
Poker can definitely **** with people's heads big time. It depends on your personality and ****, but yea, I don't think it could be called PTSD as such, since that's like serious stuff, but it can definitely have significant psychological impacts, in various different ways, in a diverse range of humans.
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07-23-2019 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerNews
Flashbacks... nightmares... anxiety... difficulty coping... trouble completing normal daily tasks... avoidance... emotional numbness... anger....

Do you keep waking up in the afternoon with these recurring symptoms? You may be suffering from "Poker Traumatic Stress Disorder" (PTSD).
These are a bunch of classic symptoms experienced by people with serious gambling problems. Trying to tell poker gamblers that they can be overcome by getting back into gambling on poker is completely irresponsible, it's extraordinary that the article hasn't been removed yet.
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07-24-2019 , 03:05 AM
"You know what, I think I suffer from PTSD."
"Damn dude what have you been through?"
"My aces got 2 outed by the ****ing drunk fish for 1000 big blinds."
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07-24-2019 , 09:42 AM
Messing up or getting bad beated in a life changing tournament can certainly put you on a life tilt.
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07-24-2019 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 9tablingnit
Messing up or getting bad beated in a life changing tournament can certainly put you on a life tilt.
you estimate an ROI in a tournament, you can be annoyed when you bust prior to this expected ROI, should be happy whenever you surpass expected ROI
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07-24-2019 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
you estimate an ROI in a tournament, you can be annoyed when you bust prior to this expected ROI, should be happy whenever you surpass expected ROI
Yeah 'cos getting your one time on the milly or at the 200-player filler bowl is exactly the same thing. At the end you just average down everything isn't it?

Regardless whoever gets touched by busting a single tournament probably should not have registered in the first place.
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07-24-2019 , 10:18 AM
Guys yesterday evening I got my AA in pre vs a fish with 72o for 450bb. he went runner runner 7-7 and stacked me. After this when I went to sleep I had a dream about it where that fish was depicted as the suicide king and pulled the sword out of his head and repeatedly stabbed me. When I woke up I had pissed the bed.

Do I have poker traumatic stress disorder?
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