So these affiliates(community heads) may have been actively seeking to add accounts they knew were botting and using automated assistance? Were you able to determine if there was direct malice in any of the cases? If so, then did you call out these affiliates publicly somewhere? If not, then I would suggest you do so to help the poker community avoid doing business with these shady individuals in the future.

if youre someone whos previously been frozen and got your money back, could you please let us know here. Ill do the same.

You tell us that usage of HUDS will NOT lead to money confiscation but at the same time, you tell us that HUDs are NOT allowed. So I have 3 questions:

1) Accounts of players who have used HUDs previously but have played fair and never used any bot software will be unblocked, right?
2) HUD and mining restriction will apply to all FUTURE games after unblocking the accounts, right?
3) Will there be an official list of software which is prohibited?

1) Yes, they will be unlocked and the account holders will be allowed to withdraw. None of the accounts that are locked will be able to play again because the community is being closed. A new account will have to be created for future play.

2) It has not been determined when HUDs and mining will be restricted (as the company is investigating the most effective ways to detect and prevent usage). Do so at your own risk.

3) No, we will have no such list given that people can just write their own software. Officially, any software tool used to assist in play is not allowed.

No site is ever going to give you this, for obvious reasons.

A list of permitted software would be a more realistic request, but I think a lot of sites don't provide this either.

Has potential to be a massive scam. What are the odds they freeze accounts and confiscate money saying people cheated while they were 100% clean?

Stars has a list for both.

Innocent until proven guilty

I was actually thinking of a complete list, as in everything not on this list is OK, but of course they wouldn't do that, and the poster probably didn't mean that either. So yeah, I was wrong. I'll get my coat.

Hearing rumours that people who have not cheated have had their money confiscated. A little worrying if true. Hoping someone who was frozen and ended up getting their money back comes into this thread soon.

I’ve never colluded and have been banned for collusion on all of my accounts without being given a reason why or what

It’s very hard to prove. Unless it’s too obvious

I believe these are rumors and, hopefully, they will remain unconfirmed. As one of the largest affiliate for Chinese apps, we have hundreds of player accounts being frozen at the moment but none of them had their balance being confiscated. So we are still waiting for this issue to be resolved and stay in direct contact with the platform.

Well heres one false positive already. But lets hope.

Was told I have 3 days to appeal and to email PK (email starts with pmduty), I just received an automated message and PK will most likely ignore my appeal.
All funds have been confiscated

God that sounds so gross, do you know if there are other
innocent players who got confisticated from your agent, too?

Head of PK security should be able to explain this. This seems almost scam if you take money off innocent players like this.

Yes, anyone I know who was under that agent have all been banned.

Look I get that they don’t want to tell us how they came to their conclusion as they won’t to give away their collusion detecting process but I still think I have every right to know why they suspected me and what was the reasoning.

I have pm’d head of security but it won’t surprise me if this goes on being ignored.

So is this site regulated?

I thought you were the expert Kelvis.

But no, your first post was just another usual Kelvis troll.

Lack of communication from security department and a random timing to do such investigation for all accounts is ridiculous.

Where was poker kings mind 6 months ago or before? Have they just realized that there might be collusion and/or bots? Instead of closing all accounts why didnt they investivate all suspicious accounts during game play continue like all REAL websites?

You cant just close all accounts and decide to investigate them. If Pking really thinks that people will put money there to play on there again they are extremely foolish.

If a website has such big games(1k ante or higher) they should have implemented KYC much earlier.

I believe website is trying to make maximum revenue because their games were getting dry and they couldnt make enough money due to lack of action. Now they want one last golden shot( to confiscate accounts which has medium to big money inside)

I hope everyone innocent will get paid but i have little hope.

I just wanted to clarify these posts by HU4hoes. Poker King would never close any account without strong evidence of cheating, collusion, or botting. The company also has no obligation to disclose the evidence we have for closing an account and would never discuss the methods for evaluating a case (this would make it easier for individuals to evade our methods in the future).

We have so far closed one community - the reason why this group of players were closed in their entirety was the egregious nature of the collusion and soft play/team play among players within this group. This community is part of a "stable" of players that were colluding, sharing action, playing multiple accounts, and sitting at the same tables.

In one instance, they collectively preyed on a clearly recreational player by chasing this individual around as he moved from table to table, immediately filling the table with players in their community, and then proceeding to collude, softplay, and basically used all means available to them to relieve this player of over 200,000 usd over a 2 day period.

We have evidence in the form of hand history data, information gathered through interviews, and transaction information that condemns this group beyond a reasonable doubt. Poker King also took the process a step further to reach out to various individuals in the poker community to check player references and found additional examples of questionable behavior among this group.

In addition to our internal evaluation, we have also reviewed the evidence with multiple, highly reputable, impartial members of the poker community to reach our conclusions. The company takes its reputation and the integrity of the games extremely seriously. It will go to any means necessary to keep the games secure from individuals who attempt to cheat other players.

Due to the ongoing investigation regarding the people involved, I will not comment further on this particular group at this point.

That doesn’t sound good....yikes

you doing gods work!

keep it up. i like that you going directly after the dodgy agents. players should do their due dilligence as well and work with guys who have a good rep. colluders are the absolute cancer of this industry and the most disgusting individuals arent the colluders itself but the countless agents/clubs/affiliates who enable it or just look away...

peaze

Ouch. Fair enough then to that long post ^