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04-10-2019 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mosquito!
Hi, Just finished talking with my agent Sunnyfreak on forum, he told me that they got info today that my and accs of my friends are banned and money gone. His partner Tobias W. is still in Manilla and he told me they have meeting later today so maybe it's not final.

Our accs are banned beginning of March, and since Lindyhppr posted here that they will not take money if we used HUD I was not happy with freezing funds but not worried since we didn't used live solvers or anything similar.

So some of my friends are playing low stakes 1/2/4 and 2/4/8, one was mixing 2/4/8 and 5/10/20, and I was playing mainly 10/20/40, we always took care not to even play at the same table and if we did we played regularly.

So total about 200k CNY is frozen atm, and some of those accs are fairly new and some are not even used but I had some money on them.
Only 1( that I used) out of our cca 35 accs got unfrozen and I withdrawed money from it.

So that really doesn't make sense since I used same setup on all accs, played up to 6 tables didn't even played huge volume, played short sessions, changing tables a lot, how come they unfroze that acc if it's used by same player.

Can you please help me what I can do to prove we used only hud?

Also since I was following this thread and talking with my agent it looked that it's going in right direction and you're unfreezing accs, and my agent had 2 unions I decided to deposit again on unfrozen union.

Those accs got blocked first gps ban then they were frozen completely, and they are unlocked now and money is withdrawn.

And I used same setup again but this time accs are unfrozen, so thats obvious that you're doing something wrong.

I would appreciate some kind of answer, and advice what to do next.
@lindyhppr Can you please respond, and tell us what we can do, how to appeal?

I guess most of our accs are banned cause of association, since some accs are not even used, some were fairly new, but there are no logic in that.

Only one of those accs that are first locked was unfrozen and I withdrew money from it,but how come that accs is not bot or using live solver, and it was used at same time other 6-7 accs.

Also why would I ever have a bot or player with live assistance playing low volume 1/2/4 and 2/4/8 at same time while I'm doing very good at 10/20/40.

I was using timebank,posting blinds cause I forgot to sitout( then occasionly makeing a play just cause I posted a blind), emojis, looking at players cards even using rabit cam when I was curious what would come on turn or river if I had jackpot draw,
I'm sure you can see all that in my accs history, also I since I used HUD( you said you're not going to take money for that) I can show my hand history although we were winning good, I made so many stupid moves, gambling without good odds, paying when there is really no reason to call, etc that no live assistance would suggest that.

I mean I could write all day how little sense it all has...
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04-10-2019 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by newbc0789
Why can't Hong Kong players play on pokerking anymore? Do you mean Hong Kong is not a part of China?
If you spent 2 seconds on wikipedia you'd have figured out they are not governed by the same entity.
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04-10-2019 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
If you spent 2 seconds on wikipedia you'd have figured out they are not governed by the same entity.
Well, I come from hong kong, so I don't need wikipedia at all... I even have chinese bank card for playing on pokerking. Luckily, I have not kept the money on the site, so I will just go to other platforms and there is no need for me to worry about accounts being frozen for no reason anymore. Just want to say a few more:

1. Do you really think hong kong is actually governed by local hong kong people now? No. The government is under control of mainland China. Their slogan is: Hong kong is a part of China

2. I know Pokerking do not welcome hong kong players long ago, as it excluded hong kong and Taiwan from SMS registration region at the beginning, so I need to use other regions' phone number to register. Why do they do that? Is it because the mainland owner does not like these two regions? You can think about the reasons behind yourself, their staff will never give you an answer.

In fact, it may be good for us to leave early, as I believe pokerking will not exist for a long time. It has extremely poor management, and it is still an illegal site in China. Better keep our money safe.
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04-10-2019 , 11:40 AM
So you first go complain that they dont allow hongkong to play and then you go rant that they are **** anyways and gonna be broke soon??! Not bad
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04-10-2019 , 11:58 AM
lol that doesnt sound salty at all mate
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04-10-2019 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by newbc0789
Well, I come from hong kong, so I don't need wikipedia at all... I even have chinese bank card for playing on pokerking. Luckily, I have not kept the money on the site, so I will just go to other platforms and there is no need for me to worry about accounts being frozen for no reason anymore. Just want to say a few more:

1. Do you really think hong kong is actually governed by local hong kong people now? No. The government is under control of mainland China. Their slogan is: Hong kong is a part of China

2. I know Pokerking do not welcome hong kong players long ago, as it excluded hong kong and Taiwan from SMS registration region at the beginning, so I need to use other regions' phone number to register. Why do they do that? Is it because the mainland owner does not like these two regions? You can think about the reasons behind yourself, their staff will never give you an answer.

In fact, it may be good for us to leave early, as I believe pokerking will not exist for a long time. It has extremely poor management, and it is still an illegal site in China. Better keep our money safe.
I don't care if they have a puppet government, what matters for poker players is how they are legally different.
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04-10-2019 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shorshi
lol that doesnt sound salty at all mate
Haha I admit it. If you have read all the posts, Lindy just promised me hong kong ip is ok just a few days ago. Of course I would be angry
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04-10-2019 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
I don't care if they have a puppet government, what matters for poker players is how they are legally different.
You are right, so this site is illegal in both hong kong and mainland China. Do you know the story of lianzhong? I am afraid it will end up like this platform
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04-10-2019 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
So you first go complain that they dont allow hongkong to play and then you go rant that they are **** anyways and gonna be broke soon??! Not bad
I think this site may disappear by next year, so of course I want to earn as much as I can before it close. Two chinese platforms like pokerking with direct cashier have already closed before pokerking exists. The latest one cannot survive more than 1 year. It does not matter where the company is located. It offers poker games to chinese players, so it is illegal. Of course I was angry, as Lindy told me hong kong ip would not be affected just a few days ago, but after the update I was told it is not the case
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04-10-2019 , 03:11 PM
lindy, will there be any kind of "official" place for players to turn to? for updates/news/anything else?

Even just for finding out which countries are officially supported by PK to join/play!? even that is an unknown at the moment, for everyone. You say "only China" but still many people outside of china are playing right this moment. What are next countries to follow? when? and how will we be informed like "hey, starting on 01.06.2019 we will allow players from Malaysia to join" or anything like that?

You guys need an official way to get out news/updates to the players, that is not just some random thread on 2+2. Make a website, a telegram channel, a discord, even just an official twitter, some kind of something where people can see whats up and most importantly can read "oh, i am officially OK to play from Canada"
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04-10-2019 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shorshi
lindy, will there be any kind of "official" place for players to turn to? for updates/news/anything else?

Even just for finding out which countries are officially supported by PK to join/play!? even that is an unknown at the moment, for everyone. You say "only China" but still many people outside of china are playing right this moment. What are next countries to follow? when? and how will we be informed like "hey, starting on 01.06.2019 we will allow players from Malaysia to join" or anything like that?

You guys need an official way to get out news/updates to the players, that is not just some random thread on 2+2. Make a website, a telegram channel, a discord, even just an official twitter, some kind of something where people can see whats up and most importantly can read "oh, i am officially OK to play from Canada"
Forget about this, nothing is announced even on the chinese version of the app. I just realized I cannot play anymore when I try to sit onto a table. They are only focusing on making this app an online casino. I have already found a new private club to play in, hope you will also be able to switch to a new app
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04-10-2019 , 03:53 PM
i like to dream <3
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04-11-2019 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by newbc0789
You are right, so this site is illegal in both hong kong and mainland China. Do you know the story of lianzhong? I am afraid it will end up like this platform
I know the story of LZ, I don't think you do...
LZ had there main office in Beijing, while their group holding was in Hong Kong.

I'm pretty sure that Pokerking does not have their office in China... If I am correct they are in Macau and Manilla.
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04-11-2019 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by newbc0789
I think this site may disappear by next year, so of course I want to earn as much as I can before it close. Two chinese platforms like pokerking with direct cashier have already closed before pokerking exists. The latest one cannot survive more than 1 year. It does not matter where the company is located. It offers poker games to chinese players, so it is illegal. Of course I was angry, as Lindy told me hong kong ip would not be affected just a few days ago, but after the update I was told it is not the case
2? I'm only aware of 1 and they where directly linked to Lianzhong. What was the other one?
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04-11-2019 , 09:27 AM
Sooo.. money is locked/ seized on one of my accounts (the rest released already)

Where do I have an option to appeal?
For any kind of useful info PM me.
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04-12-2019 , 03:32 AM
@lindy

I had 3 accounts with around 100k rmb and played 400-600hands on each of them. One of those accounts was unlocked about 10 days ago and for the other two I just received an e-mail from support saying:

"The relevant unit is inquiring that the account you provided is a robot account. After the system and a large number of manpower comparisons, we conclude that there are illegal programs (bots) for the game. In order to maintain platform fairness, your account will be carried out. Freeze and confiscate funds in your account."

This is frustrating since, like I said, I only played a few games for each of these accounts, so whatever data that is claimed to have been analyzed is by no means sufficient and obviously not reliable since one of my accounts was unlocked.
Support isn't helpful or responsive at all. I can understand how some large hand history accounts are being locked and closed following investigation, but I played 500 hands/acc over a span of 10-14 days.
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04-12-2019 , 02:20 PM
I had 5 accounts on PKing. 2 have been unfrozen, 3 others have been locked and I received an email saying my accounts have been closed and funds confiscated for using "robot programs."
I never used any assistive software, not even a HUD. I am certainly not a bot. This is not reflecting well on the security process. Lindy, I sent you a PM, please help!
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04-12-2019 , 02:47 PM
So there are a couple of us now with a part of the accounts unfrozen and the rest still locked. That doesn't make any sense, especially if you accuse people of botting. Surely there must be something wrong with their system. I hope the appeal process is fair, we'll see...
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04-13-2019 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocky-PN
So there are a couple of us now with a part of the accounts unfrozen and the rest still locked. That doesn't make any sense, especially if you accuse people of botting. Surely there must be something wrong with their system. I hope the appeal process is fair, we'll see...
I also hope but but have very little faith in them atm.

Managed to talk with john Andress but he said he is only consultant and he is not dealing with players.

So far all we got from Linddyhppr is announcement about their progress, but he didn't even told us anything about appeal process that he mentioned.

Really hope he'll answer soon.

Last edited by mosquito!; 04-13-2019 at 08:37 AM.
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04-15-2019 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by scurra
@lindy

I had 3 accounts with around 100k rmb and played 400-600hands on each of them. One of those accounts was unlocked about 10 days ago and for the other two I just received an e-mail from support saying:

"The relevant unit is inquiring that the account you provided is a robot account. After the system and a large number of manpower comparisons, we conclude that there are illegal programs (bots) for the game. In order to maintain platform fairness, your account will be carried out. Freeze and confiscate funds in your account."

This is frustrating since, like I said, I only played a few games for each of these accounts, so whatever data that is claimed to have been analyzed is by no means sufficient and obviously not reliable since one of my accounts was unlocked.
Support isn't helpful or responsive at all. I can understand how some large hand history accounts are being locked and closed following investigation, but I played 500 hands/acc over a span of 10-14 days.

Unreal... i also have an account with 100k that got frozen over a month ago and similar amount of hands played.
Mine still says “frozen” but i feel it could very well be seized.

Ridiculous really
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04-15-2019 , 01:41 AM
When the going gets tough, and they realize the mess they got themselves in it's always better to just dissapear. And if **** like this happens it isnobvious that there are also accounts like the 3 I had that were wrongfully marked robots, robots ffs. Must be rough for them cause if you realize your process is all kinds of messed up, how do you proceed? Like you either just make it a plain robbery or you have to unfreeze almost everyone, since all you have is such faulty conclusions. Weird stuff.. Vey wierd.
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04-16-2019 , 10:25 AM
Lindy can we get any update ?

Even though i got information that my account seemed clean i got locked my money. Is there gonna be appeal process any soon ?
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04-16-2019 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodFake
Lindy can we get any update ?

Even though i got information that my account seemed clean i got locked my money. Is there gonna be appeal process any soon ?
Yeah, would be nice to get an update from lindy.
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04-17-2019 , 03:46 PM
@lindy

Any update on compensations/refunds, especially after banning whole europe?
I hope you don't want to refund the confiscated money in some sort of promotions , which will only cater to the players, who can still play (or any type of promotion at all)
This would be unfair, especially if you think about reopening the market to those exact same players again in the near future, the ones who got cheated and didn't receive a refund. They will remember what happened the last time!

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04-17-2019 , 11:31 PM
When you guys are saying that Europe is banned, are you still able to play from Asia?
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