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Lol at “mounting evidence!”

Still think WSOP was rigging table draws?

The one deal that was admitted after the fact there was money left on the table

i made those rigging tables posts to ruffle your feathers. obv the table breaks/draws aren't rigged

you're right that there may have been $$$ still to play for, but obv it wasn't significant money. 50k maybe 100k

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07-17-2023 , 07:34 PM

#1802

itsgoodbye

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Originally Posted by itsgoodbye

Yup, I would say that as well. They just seemed extemely relaxed ( and not posturing) as soon as the day started.
We'll never know though, it's possible they did not have a deal.
I would be happy with 4 millions but I would definitely be more stressed if I had a chance to get 8 millions more in a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Pay jumps from 9 to 3 are nothing compared to the final ones ( as expected ).

Nothing wrong with a deal btw.

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07-17-2023 , 07:40 PM

#1803

Utah_CUtiger

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There’s definitely a lot of evidence they made a deal. Just their relaxed nature compared to the super seriousness of previous years. The quick decisions and hands. The fact all of them were pumped when Jachtmann busted and seemed to all get along well.

Plus as someone here mentioned, the rails were talking deals as early as 8 handed

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07-17-2023 , 07:44 PM

#1804

Sil3ntness

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The ending definitely felt anti-climatic.

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07-17-2023 , 07:47 PM

#1805

namisgr11

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I wouldn't be surprised if there were no money set aside to be played for, and the only thing at stake was the title and the bracelet. If true, everybody got better than second place money.

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07-17-2023 , 07:49 PM

#1806

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by namisgr11

I wouldn't be surprised if there were no money set aside to be played for, and the only thing at stake was the title and the bracelet.

They'd have to work it out so the winner doesn't get hosed on taxes.

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07-17-2023 , 07:51 PM

#1807

ligastar

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

They'd have to work it out so the winner doesn't get hosed on taxes.

that's what the lawyers and contract were for last night

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07-17-2023 , 07:54 PM

#1808

ScotchOnDaRocks

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Originally Posted by ligastar

Wow you got me good! I don’t believe it though lol

We don’t know but it could have been more and demeanor and plays would have been same. There is a utility function of money whereby each additional dollar means less and that definitely kicks with 6M locked up, or so I would imagine

Anyhow, I support going from 9 to 1 in one sitting. And then each person gets a chaperone so no secret meetings. Any deal is forfeit of winnings

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07-17-2023 , 07:54 PM

#1809

sickhuman

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I wonder where those 3 players ranked 1-10,043 relative to the field in terms of pre tournament ROI.

Weinman 420 1.6ish
Walton- 1700 1.2ish
Jones- 2600 1.08ish

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07-17-2023 , 07:58 PM

#1810

ligastar

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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks

Anyhow, I support going from 9 to 1 in one sitting. And then each person gets a chaperone so no secret meetings. Any deal is forfeit of winnings

i can get behind this

today was a farce

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07-17-2023 , 08:00 PM

#1811

iwasbanned

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Originally Posted by ligastar

obv the table breaks/draws aren't rigged

I'm not too sure about that.
I think the fill ins for the feature table are so rigged.
Case in point Rigby, he drew into a 'fill in seat' at the feature tables way beyond the laws of probability.

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07-17-2023 , 08:08 PM

#1812

StoppedRainingMen

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Don’t blame them for chopping. Blame WSOP for having a 10th day for 3 people

Pathetic

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07-17-2023 , 08:12 PM

#1813

itsgoodbye

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Originally Posted by ligastar

i can get behind this

today was a farce

For the players involved, a deal is obviously better.
But thinking more about it, there is something against the spirit of the game in what was displayed tonight.
The whole event is built around the amount of money up top ( let alone the emphasis with the shotgun guy).
You basically want to see a 6 M $ pot at some point. But no, everyone is cool and friendly, there is no antagonism going on, and especially no tension at all.
Imagine Djokovic and Alcaraz dealing for the Wimbledon finals ( even though the Title means more).
Making a deal for the wsop is in line with the reality and the essence of the game but makes for bad competition and tv.

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07-17-2023 , 08:17 PM

#1814

itsgoodbye

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Plus I guess the 3 players did not have 100% of themselves.

Does anyone know about previous deals in the Main ? ( there has to be quite some

)

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07-17-2023 , 08:19 PM

#1815

8swanky1

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Originally Posted by itsgoodbye

If the WSOP can make it all about the money by charging for viewership on PokerGo...why can't the players decide to make it all about the money & chop? If you ask me, this is karma biting the WSOP in the ass for their greed!

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07-17-2023 , 08:25 PM

#1816

parisron

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07-17-2023 , 08:26 PM

#1817

feel wrath

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Chance Kornuth who'se team were coaching Jones said there was no deal. But they'd be nuts not to have made a deal.

No one in their right mind should want to play a 90bb spin n go for $8m.

we all want to see them gamble but it's their money and their lives and I would 100% make a deal if I was in their situation...and even if the $$ was 10x less

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07-17-2023 , 08:28 PM

#1818

Dr. Meh

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Wth??? I got home from work ready to watch them battle it out live and it’s over already?!?

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07-17-2023 , 08:29 PM

#1819

parisron

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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh

Wth??? I got home from work ready to watch them battle it out live and it’s over already?!?

They played like it was a $3 tournament.

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07-17-2023 , 08:31 PM

#1820

Dr. Meh

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Originally Posted by parisron

They played like it was a $3 tournament.

Lame! What a letdown.

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07-17-2023 , 09:05 PM

#1821

iwasbanned

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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh

Wth??? I got home from work ready to watch them battle it out live and it’s over already?!?

As far as the actual time of day in Vegas, this has to be the earliest the me final table has ever ended ??

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07-17-2023 , 09:45 PM

#1822

arcdog

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Originally Posted by itsgoodbye

Plus I guess the 3 players did not have 100% of themselves.

Does anyone know about previous deals in the Main ? ( there has to be quite some

)

I hate to break it to you but most people in the ME have all of themselves. Those guys may have swapped small pieces with friends but they willingly can put up 10k of their own money in that tournament. Its not a 50k and its soft as silk.

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07-17-2023 , 10:25 PM

#1823

LimpDitka

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Pretty obvious there was a chop regardless of what the players will say. I'm sure wsop told them that if they did want to facilitate a chop privately that they keep their mouths shut.

Ultimately it hurt the product. The pressure was gone, no drama. I can't say I blame them, but the WSOP messed up by playing down to 3. It gave the players an entire day to work out the complexities of a chop. I doubt they will make the same mistake next year.

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07-17-2023 , 10:30 PM

#1824

parisron

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If WSOP would just make better payout structure that isn't ridiculously top heavy then that wouldn't happen. The payout structures online are stupid also.