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11-26-2021 , 02:48 AM
I'd like to see a lower price or some kind of explanation why it's so pricey ... not saying it isn't but it is pricey and if it's to break even, fine, but if they're raking it should be less, or better.

It's early in their start and a lot of investments had to be made. They seem to be headed in the correct direction. Maybe hire less well known people for normal wages instead of relying on names for fame.

I would like to see more competing commentary. I was thinking hiring a pro to do the color and I could do the play by play.

Does pokergo do live streams of cash too? Or is the new High Stakes etc studio recording?

Last edited by inmyrav; 11-26-2021 at 03:00 AM.
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11-26-2021 , 06:45 AM
It's not even pricey.
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11-26-2021 , 07:50 PM
Why not just make it free but have adverting?
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12-01-2021 , 10:39 PM
Who at PokerGo got the dumb idea of putting a picture of the eventual winner on every video in the archive? It makes pretty much their entire archive unwatchable to those looking for the entertainment of not knowing and then slowly finding out who wins over several hours. A picture of everyone at the table in question would be so so much better. Also would be great to quickly find videos featuring people we would like to see whether they finished first or not rather than only knowing the exact winner of any given broadcast.
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12-02-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaAce
Who at PokerGo got the dumb idea of putting a picture of the eventual winner on every video in the archive? It makes pretty much their entire archive unwatchable to those looking for the entertainment of not knowing and then slowly finding out who wins over several hours. A picture of everyone at the table in question would be so so much better. Also would be great to quickly find videos featuring people we would like to see whether they finished first or not rather than only knowing the exact winner of any given broadcast.
This is a good point, yeah it is dumb to have the winners on the archive
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12-02-2021 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaAce
Who at PokerGo got the dumb idea of putting a picture of the eventual winner on every video in the archive? It makes pretty much their entire archive unwatchable to those looking for the entertainment of not knowing and then slowly finding out who wins over several hours. A picture of everyone at the table in question would be so so much better. Also would be great to quickly find videos featuring people we would like to see whether they finished first or not rather than only knowing the exact winner of any given broadcast.
It's definitely not every video in the archive. I just browsed the thumbnails for the 2021 WSOP events and the photos appear to be the same ones that were posted prior to the final tables taking place.
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12-24-2021 , 03:56 PM
I would like to see much more coverage of the early stages of tournaments. Apart from the main, nearly all of the coverage is final table stuff, where there is much less room for skilful manoeuvring.
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01-03-2022 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rimlog
I would like to see much more coverage of the early stages of tournaments. Apart from the main, nearly all of the coverage is final table stuff, where there is much less room for skilful manoeuvring.
Totally agree, need more early day coverage of tournaments. Very interesting seeing the different playing styles when people have a lot of chips. They should have wall to wall coverage of a few tournaments besides the main. I understand they cant do all but a few is reasonable.
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01-03-2022 , 12:05 PM
They could just alter the tournaments to make the final tables deeper.
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07-03-2022 , 03:54 PM
Can we all just agree that they failed this year also? Is somebody actually happy about the coverage?
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07-04-2022 , 05:51 PM
Remko on random run it back episodes: "It's really hard for us to host poker footage that we had nothing to do with producing, but are able to profit off of because some random trust fund kind ******* bought the rights and hoarded all of the footage a few years ago. Stop being ungrateful."
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07-04-2022 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TucoSalamanca
Can we all just agree that they failed this year also? Is somebody actually happy about the coverage?
I don't think it was terrible. People just like complaining.

They covered a variety of stuff and even did some bonus streams like Hellmuth in the $3k.

My two big gripes:

1. When possible, they should probably show the full final table instead of an arbitrary # of players left.
2. There's no excuse for not having day 1 Main Event coverage. It's the most important event on the schedule. Find a way to cover it.

Beyond that, I was a little disappointed not to hear Schulman in the booth at all. He's the best commentator, but I can understand if he would rather be playing stuff than announcing. Still holding out hope that we will get some Schulman + Nejad for some of this Main Event coverage.
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07-04-2022 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I don't think it was terrible. People just like complaining.

They covered a variety of stuff and even did some bonus streams like Hellmuth in the $3k.

My two big gripes:

1. When possible, they should probably show the full final table instead of an arbitrary # of players left.
2. There's no excuse for not having day 1 Main Event coverage. It's the most important event on the schedule. Find a way to cover it.

Beyond that, I was a little disappointed not to hear Schulman in the booth at all. He's the best commentator, but I can understand if he would rather be playing stuff than announcing. Still holding out hope that we will get some Schulman + Nejad for some of this Main Event coverage.
No it's been terrible. And the fact thay they are only showing 1 random day 1 of the main event sums up how terrible they've been.
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07-04-2022 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I don't think it was terrible. People just like complaining.
Define terrible, what they have is well done but the scope of coverage is getting worse each year so speaking up does not make you a complainer

In past we got 10K 27TD, Final Two Tables of 50K PPC, multiple Day 1 Main Event among other things, that didn't happen this year
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07-04-2022 , 07:38 PM
They failed. They should be treating the ME like a massive festival. Day to day coverage. Multiple field reporters capturing the atmosphere. A feature table. A secondary table. Basically what EPT does with their live coverage. Is it really that hard and expensive to follow their model?

And they should copy the EPT model for the rest of the events instead of just narrowing the coverage down to a 5 handed FT. Imagine how exciting that PH FT would've been the other day had we got to follow it from the start? It was still exciting to follow but having the story lines from Day 1 would've made it much better. EPT model is far superior to what PokerGo and WSOP put out.
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07-04-2022 , 08:58 PM
I agree that their Main Event coverage is a big fail. It's the most important tournament of the year. They need to cover every day. Simple as that.

I'm more forgiving of the other stuff. People have been complaining about their schedule from day one. If they cover obscure stuff with big names, people complain about seeing the same players all the time. If they cover the big donkaments with 9 randoms at the final table, people complain that they're not showing name pros.

The WSOP is a logistical nightmare. 80+ tournaments. 6-7 tournaments running at any given time. PokerGo doesn't have the budget to stick a camera in every corner of Bally's/Paris and capture every moment. They don't have a crystal ball to tell them when one of the name brand pros like Hellmuth, Ivey, or Negreanu is going to make a final table. They have to pick and choose what they show, which of course means they're not going to please everyone.

There's been some good stuff this year. I was glad to see the $50k PPC final table, Milly Maker, Colossus, and Monster Stack. They got a couple high roller events in there to get some familiar faces on screen. Almost every day they've had a final table airing, and they even double-dipped for that Hellmuth $3k final table.

The amount of content for the price point has been solid.

Once again, I'll agree that missing three days of the Main Event is unacceptable though. If it's a matter of staffing or budget, the Main Event is the last thing they should be sacrificing. Beyond that I think their coverage has been pretty good overall.
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07-04-2022 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I agree that their Main Event coverage is a big fail. It's the most important tournament of the year. They need to cover every day. Simple as that.

I'm more forgiving of the other stuff. People have been complaining about their schedule from day one. If they cover obscure stuff with big names, people complain about seeing the same players all the time. If they cover the big donkaments with 9 randoms at the final table, people complain that they're not showing name pros.

The WSOP is a logistical nightmare. 80+ tournaments. 6-7 tournaments running at any given time. PokerGo doesn't have the budget to stick a camera in every corner of Bally's/Paris and capture every moment. They don't have a crystal ball to tell them when one of the name brand pros like Hellmuth, Ivey, or Negreanu is going to make a final table. They have to pick and choose what they show, which of course means they're not going to please everyone.

There's been some good stuff this year. I was glad to see the $50k PPC final table, Milly Maker, Colossus, and Monster Stack. They got a couple high roller events in there to get some familiar faces on screen. Almost every day they've had a final table airing, and they even double-dipped for that Hellmuth $3k final table.

The amount of content for the price point has been solid.

Once again, I'll agree that missing three days of the Main Event is unacceptable though. If it's a matter of staffing or budget, the Main Event is the last thing they should be sacrificing. Beyond that I think their coverage has been pretty good overall.
I only subscribe to watch the main. I don't care about the other stuff. And for them to water down the coverage of the premier wsop tournament is a joke. And I'm done subscribing.
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07-05-2022 , 10:46 AM
"Ok, bring it in staff. Since it's not enough to keep ALL our subs happy you will now have to work 13 of the next 14 days instead of 9 of 10 as planned. Yes, I know it's 12-13 hour days and most of the subs are sleeping for 40% of the coverage and we're trying to cover 99% of players that no one even knows their name and we have no background intel on them. We've chosen to exhaust you guys for an additional 3% of tournament action so that the coverage really suffers when (real tournament) life changing hands occur later in the tournament. That's it .. make sure you pick up your free bottle of water on the way out today .. stay hydrated!" GL
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07-05-2022 , 01:34 PM
I've never understood how PokerGo could take something that was once free, put a price tag on it, provide an inferior product and expect people to like it more? The free WSOP.com streams provided back in early to mid 2010s were fine.
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07-05-2022 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
My two big gripes:

1. When possible, they should probably show the full final table instead of an arbitrary # of players left.
2. There's no excuse for not having day 1 Main Event coverage. It's the most important event on the schedule. Find a way to cover it.
These are my two gripes also. Only showing the final 5 players for "final table" coverage has been a big letdown for me.
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07-05-2022 , 01:56 PM
They also need to redesign their website.
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07-05-2022 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by easyfnmoney
I've never understood how PokerGo could take something that was once free, put a price tag on it, provide an inferior product and expect people to like it more? The free WSOP.com streams provided back in early to mid 2010s were fine.
we are just a bunch of complainers lol
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07-05-2022 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by easyfnmoney
I've never understood how PokerGo could take something that was once free, put a price tag on it, provide an inferior product and expect people to like it more? The free WSOP.com streams provided back in early to mid 2010s were fine.
The brain behind poker go is also the brain that brought you the college loan corporation, loaning $19 billion in student loans.
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07-05-2022 , 02:41 PM
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I'm more forgiving of the other stuff. People have been complaining about their schedule from day one.
10K 27TD was on their schedule, did not air because of "awe shucks technical problems"

I think the 10K stud8 was on the schedule as well but they did not air for whatever reason. I would have been happy if they just kept to schedule

These are championship events that happen once per year, seems kind of obvious that they should be aired. They used to be aired, before we started paying.

We have the entire rest of the year to watch 25K Super High Rollers with Ali, Foxen, Schindler, Katz and the rest of them in US Poker Open and stuff like that
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07-05-2022 , 10:05 PM
Anyone know what the Main FT plan is? Is it only going to be on PokerGo? I haven't subbed this year yet.
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