I think this deserves a thread of it’s own.

As a poker fan, I like to watch the big names in WSOP and in the past the WSOP streams were great. This year it has been a disgrace.

- HU championship without holecards
- Hellmuth historic bracelet win not streamed
- Looks like they are not going to stream the 10 k dealer’s choice with most likely Negreanu, Hellmuth and Matusow

Am I the only one who is pissed to pay for this?

Strongly agree. Maybe I'd use a less strong language but definetely looking to see more of the mixed games and the 10K Dealer's Choice is an absoulte must to stream.

When I play it's mostly NL, some PLO. However - There's infinite NL MTTs footage out there, the WSOP is a great opportunity to watch (and even learn) other games, especially when fields are so stacked with great players. The 10K dealer's choice is wayyyyy more interesting to watch, alot of it due to the players, even if I don't know the rules to some of the games than some 1.5k where you don't know anyone and it's just another flipament.

Where all the juicy footage?

please stop buying subbscriptions to that horrible service lol they are threating other content creators to take down material taken from their platform, like 1-5min content which actually promotes them aswell how scummy u have to be. worst are the payers tbh

lol donkaments

There's plenty of complaining in the 'normal' PG thread .. if Mods want to let this one go that's fine too.

PHell's f-bomb assault is all over the place .. was shown live and it archived for viewing.

It would be nice if they could just 'jump' every time they think something interesting is going to happen.

I can take both sides of the argument .. One, they can't really pay staff to work 60 days in a row. Two, they should staff and be ready since this is the biggest stretch of poker during the year.

While I agree that some of us would be just fine to have a silent stream if commentators aren't available. You also have the graphics nightmare in a Dealer's Choice since the table probably can't change games 'on a dime'.

All good thoughts, they have to make decisions .. and in poker you're never going to make decisions that satisfy everyone. GL

Poker was about the 30th priority for espn, and they did more to promote the game and the players than PokerGO. The coverage is a joke, the app is a joke, the monopoly on poker content is a joke.

- A paid subscriber

their coverage is brutal. you mean to tell me they arent going to be televising a final table with negreanu, hellmuth matusow and adam friedman (who is looking to win this same event for the 3rd yr in a row!).

They better figure out a way to televise this final table or many people arent going to resubscribe.

I think events like dealer's choice would be difficult to stream because of the difficulty of explaining all the games. Horse lends itself to easier streaming since the games are simpler. If they attempt to stream, it would be interesting to see how they do it.

imo any poket content that is not ultra high stakes cash is just boring content, i dont know why people sill trying to make poker into something is not lol like who the f cares about random sitngo or tournament between random unknown players flipping with virtual chips for 10-30bb, how is that ever fun to watch? i dont get it

Seems to me this can all be explained by mass incompetence on the part of poker go. They probably looked at the subscription $ stream with no consideration whatsoever with what viewers wanted to watch.

Said this in the WSOP thread, but it was profoundly stupid for the WSOP to put its content behind a paywall and to use a distributor who won't actually distribute their content. Lol at any of us who paid for this crap.

And what other streaming/production 'company' is next in line to show WSOP LIVE poker?

While we don't know how many subscribers there actually are you may want to step back and compare what you're getting to .. oh, like a UFC fight that you pay 4x for and only get 5-7 hours of coverage?

It's all relative .. I'm an annual subscriber so I've not really studied the ads and how the WSOP is promoted in those ads. Are you suggesting that it's misleading and there should be a live feed 12 hours a day in the Thunderdome?

Shoot, we all pay $15 for a sandwich that takes 15 min to eat and only gets us through 5 hours of the day before we are more than wiling to pay for more food. GL

The software is such **** too. I figured out a backdoor way to watch their content for free. Hilarious honestly that im able to get it for free.

Barely showing the 25k HU was shocking. Ok they cut to it a few times and we saw the last couple of hands (no hole cards) but they had advertised streaming the final on the schedule for weeks beforehand, basically a lie.

I’m ending my subscription after the WSOP ends because even if it’s not all the coverage that I’d like, it’s better than not having it

I wholeheartedly agree with OP!!! Very disappointed I couldn’t watch PH win #16 vs loud mouth fullflush1 ..

2 words:

Nick
Schulman

#endboss of commentators

YES ! He is the best commentator by far.

He and Ali have great chemistry and I think are the best team.

I remember being a huge fan and watching a lot of wsop coverage years ago. Since pokergo next to nothing. poker/wsop is not going to be more popular if they cant even attract people who have a basic interest in poker. Im not even going to start about total newcomers. Like how do they want to bring a game like poker to new people if they hide behind a paywall?

Logistics is the issue...

The equipment and fixtures that Pokergo uses inside the Pokergo studios are permanent and fixed. There already is a "final table" there. There are also outlying tables. Each of these are in self-contained spaces with very well controlled lighting and sound and aesthetics....all of which are fixed and permanent. Ready to go with on call crews.

But when they go to the Rio, they need to do a lot of re-sets and set ups, like they are constantly doing a new project each and every time they go - sort of like the film crew of Mission Impossible going to Morocco and bringing all of the stuff and people with them. For this reason, they don't have the ability to make quick and flexible exploitative actions in case Tony G, Jamie Gold, Phil Hellmuth, Mike Matusow and Daniel Negreanu make the final five.

Simple Solution:

Do all of the WSOP final tables inside the Pokergo Studios, not the Rio.

or

Continue to play all final tables at the Rio BUT have the option of making last minute emergency moves to the Pokergo Studios of certain final tables at a moments notice in case something historic or interesting shows up.

can't stream the dealer's choice due to graphic problems

other criticisms are legit but whatya gonna do

I've turned off a few streams with Lon McEachern commentating. I find them really hard to watch.

Also what's the deal with starting the stream of a lot of these final tables when they are down to 5 players?

Hopefully the main event coverage will be better than what we've got so far.

Here was their response when I asked [see main WSOP thread for my email to them]

Hi,

Thank you for reaching out and for your feedback. There are 80 events scheduled over the course of this fall edition of WSOP 2021. With so many events scheduled it was difficult for WSOP, PokerGO and other sponsors to determine which events to stream and which not to.
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Due to staffing requirements and a host of other matters, it is difficult to change the streaming schedule without losing quality in the process. Because we are always looking to produce the best possible product to stream, I am sorry that the $10K Dealer's Choice event was not able to be streamed. Thank you for your feedback and for your support.




Patrick Knight
CUSTOMER SERVICE