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10-26-2021 , 02:13 PM
Thanks I like my 20$ per year domain.
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10-26-2021 , 02:50 PM
Me too lol make it a good one so I can copy it
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10-26-2021 , 08:44 PM
OP, I should probably tell you the reason I asked about the libel issue is I proposed a similar idea for a site here years ago and was quickly talked out of it for the same reason. I had already bought the domain name but I let it go and I think it’s available now if you want it.

PokerHallOfShame.com

EDIT: the thread I started: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...=hall+of+shame
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10-26-2021 , 09:56 PM
Can anyone shed light on Alec Torelli new “opportunity “ ?

I don’t think it’s fair to cal it a Ponzi scheme or a scam, or him a scammer or a fraud or a thief or something along those lines yet but it just seems that a thing that’s advertising as not a poker staking site but an “influencer based community “ or something along those lines really raised red flags to me!?!???
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10-26-2021 , 11:34 PM
If you make the website anonymously and in international waters I dunno how easy it is to get taken down
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10-27-2021 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by do it buddey
bro you can't slander peoples names if there is no legit court ruling. everyone on the list will come at you with defamation letters.. eg. me and all my buddies don't really like berba21 so we get together to come up with a fake story, we all collude and vote you up the ranks to your site. do you think this is a fair system? whether your hearts in the right place or not, everyone needs to be treated as innocent until proven otherwise it becomes a sh*t show.
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10-27-2021 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sb77
Can anyone shed light on Alec Torelli new “opportunity “ ?

I don’t think it’s fair to cal it a Ponzi scheme or a scam, or him a scammer or a fraud or a thief or something along those lines yet but it just seems that a thing that’s advertising as not a poker staking site but an “influencer based community “ or something along those lines really raised red flags to me!?!???
I think maybe you're looking for this thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...relli-1797590/

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
If you make the website anonymously and in international waters I dunno how easy it is to get taken down
I can't imagine why someone would want to go to that kind of trouble for a website of questionable value.
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10-27-2021 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Berba21
I did consult a lawyer and they were positive point 7 from the Terms and conditions protects me legally.

For the moment, I will keep the site running and see if it gets any users/submissions. I will not start to aggressively market it.
2 things, your terms and conditions will never supersede law. Secondly, a complainant with enough money doesn't have to start legal proceedings expecting to win, they can happily make your life a misery and drain you of money by dragging you through the courts. Unless you have deep pockets, or are extremely certain about the legal consequences, then this is a bad project to associate with your name.
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10-27-2021 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
That seems a little low...I've heard pages that generate this warning from Norton usually go for at least double.




WTF? Norton? 2003 called, they want their AV back.


Only reason it gets flagged is because of ssl cert not being active.
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10-27-2021 , 10:07 AM
If any of you are software developers, this is the tech stack I use:

Frontend - ReactJS
Backend - Google Cloud Functions, DynamoDB

For managing users, I use Firebase.

I deploy on Netlify so get SSL certs and quite a lot of bandwidth for free.
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10-27-2021 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
If you make the website anonymously and in international waters I dunno how easy it is to get taken down
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10-27-2021 , 07:13 PM
As a reminder http://nickraineyisathief.com/ is still up and running. It was an effective job to run a guy out of poker for the most part.

If you want to expose scammers, learn from the master. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ammer-1099401/
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10-28-2021 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
WTF? Norton? 2003 called, they want their AV back.
That sounds like about the time I abandoned their bloatware. Gave them a try again this year with a big discount. Better now, but I don't know if I'll bother when renewal time comes around.

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Only reason it gets flagged is because of ssl cert not being active.
Fair enough; I just found it amusing to get that screen immediately after someone suggested selling the site.
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05-14-2022 , 07:44 AM
Shameless bump of the thread, because of the latest events. I decided to keep the website alive since the start, but it still hasn't got any traction.
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05-14-2022 , 03:55 PM
I know of one that has got a lot of traction.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-views-gossip/
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05-15-2022 , 12:45 AM
Great site. ��
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05-17-2022 , 11:32 PM
Bad idea ....would not advise this as a good idea for many reasons. Legal trouble and more....
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05-18-2022 , 12:35 AM
seems you gave the project up?
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05-18-2022 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
seems you gave the project up?
Not really, but not marketing it or adding entries myself. There has been no submissions from anyone apart from one. The website itself can run indefinitely. It doesn't require much if any support from my side.
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05-18-2022 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Berba21
Not really, but not marketing it or adding entries myself. There has been no submissions from anyone apart from one. The website itself can run indefinitely. It doesn't require much if any support from my side.
i took a look and immediately backed off

wants real name during account creation and if you avoid that by say creating an account via twitter then it wants full access to your twitter account

i don't think you meant this stuff intentionally but those are 100% capping your growth

you don't need access to my twitter account in order to use it as a login credential, so why ask for those permissions? again, i don't think you have any nefarious motives but that's kind of the point, you have no need for those permissions unless you did

then you want my real name, which is messed up for a big reason is that google is imprecise

let's say I, Mr. Richard Roll wishes to report someone who scammed 5k

so i report Nick Rainey stole 5k, but now my own full name is part of the post

so now whenever anyone googles Richard Roll, they come across a website regarding scammers, huge red flag and hurts me just as much as the person who actually scammed

even if they click the link, find the specific post and then figure out that Richard Roll is the victim not the scammer, then it's still not a good look

fix these things, make it a simple submission process where people aren't worried that posting here will have far greater negative impacts on themselves than the person who scammed them and perhaps your site could grow
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05-19-2022 , 11:07 AM
Appreciate the feedback. Agree about the real name suggestion and changed it.

The social logins for Twitter, FB and Google are standard. Anywhere else you login using them, you give the same permissions if not even more permissions. The ones on this website are the least permissive ones.

It's just a feature for people who don't want to remember another user/pass and don't mind sharing their profile details. It's all covered in the privacy policy.
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05-19-2022 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Exactly. There are way too many to list anyways. Believe me when I say this, for every 'known' scammer there are 50 more. And based on the fact that the high profile ones like Eli and Chino still are celebrated and when they make a deep run in a tournament nobody says a peep? I don't even give a **** anymore because nobody does a damn thing about it anyways.
Yea, why call out cheaters. Let them keep going and ruin poker more and more. I just can't waste my time to call these people out, I'm too busy.
And on another note, there are way too many Russian solders killing innocent people in Ukraine to do anything about that, let's just leave it alone, maybe it will go away.
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05-19-2022 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Berba21
Appreciate the feedback. Agree about the real name suggestion and changed it.

The social logins for Twitter, FB and Google are standard. Anywhere else you login using them, you give the same permissions if not even more permissions. The ones on this website are the least permissive ones.

It's just a feature for people who don't want to remember another user/pass and don't mind sharing their profile details. It's all covered in the privacy policy.
ahh i took another look, i thought you had access to make tweets but apparently i was mistaken, agreed those are part of the standard package
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05-19-2022 , 01:31 PM
This list is something the community has been trying to do right for a long time. The problem here is that you're relatively unknown in the community so it doesn't make for a trusted source; on the other hand, if someone is well known they garner the attacks and ire of everyone by becoming the figurehead of it, and then ppl come out of the woodwork to march out any past sins. The other problem is that if it gets any traction there will be legal action (whether you win or lose) and that anonymity on the internet brings out the smallest behavior in people. I say good luck, this is necessary and if it takes a few tries for us to police ourselves, at least we're heading in a good direction.
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05-19-2022 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
This list is something the community has been trying to do right for a long time. The problem here is that you're relatively unknown in the community so it doesn't make for a trusted source; on the other hand, if someone is well known they garner the attacks and ire of everyone by becoming the figurehead of it, and then ppl come out of the woodwork to march out any past sins. The other problem is that if it gets any traction there will be legal action (whether you win or lose) and that anonymity on the internet brings out the smallest behavior in people. I say good luck, this is necessary and if it takes a few tries for us to police ourselves, at least we're heading in a good direction.
Yeah. I agree. I am unknown to the community and that makes the project more difficult to market and gain trust.

If things go well somehow and there is traction, I will be adding moderator functionality in so that other selected people with more trust from the community can review the submissions as well. And by reviewing I mean just checking if the submissions are not offensive and not an obvious spam since it's difficult to automate.

It's up to the submitter to check their facts and make sure they are not falsely making allegations vs someone. At the end, they would be responsible if any legal actions are made vs them. That's why collecting the basic user data on signup (email or social accounts info) is important.
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