Yes. Too many fat people. They’re slow and lazy and makes me unhappy to look at.

(Horrible bosses)

I've had a couple "bad trips" myself actually. They weren't fun, but I learned a lot about myself from them. LSD isn't some happy pill - it might bring negative thoughts and emotions out for some people, in some settings. For most people a bad trip is a learning experience and something to grow from.

Maybe we have different definitions of "losing your mind". I was floating down a river once, so tripped out on acid that it looked like all of the bushes alongside the river were actually snakes waving to me. But I knew it was just in my head. I never actually thought they were snakes. And despite taking 300ug of acid I could still have conversations, find my way back to our island campsite, cook myself dinner, etc.

Maybe it's different for some people? Obviously drugs effect everyone different but I've never been so messed up on LSD that I couldn't function or find my way home - unfortunately can't say the same for beer

I've done a variety of psychedelics and never lost my mind. They were very potent stuff too. Only bad trip I had was cuz I watched a bunch talking bipedal insects in the movie District 9. Not the best movie to watch while tripping lol.

It's Ecstasy and not Acid that's shown some evidence for a therapeutic benefit in treating PTSD, although studies to date are uncontrolled and on very small numbers of cases. As for whether acid is invariably a positive experience, it's well established to be far from it, with some users experiencing psychotic breaks and long-lasting behavioral problems.
Finally, it's worth pointing out that one's personal experiences with anything are not generalizable to the population at large.

An n of 1 never leads to a valid scientific conclusion.

Have you ever taken LSD?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.3f2b402a3bb8

I'm pretty sure all psyches cause a neuroplastic state in the brain and that is a tool that can be used for pretty much all psychological problems. There's a reason why holy men take acid and say meditation is better. It puts you in a similar state, the neuroplastic state. That's why the ego melts, when your full on plastic beliefs, habits and conditioning get thrown out the window. Some may call it losing your mind but for others it's liberation form the mental cell.


I think the non science geeks are talking too much social conditioning/belief itt instead of science.

Ecstasy also has therapeutic benefits, but LSD has also shown a lot of promise in treating ptsd: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5416695/

"charging $1,400 for a pound of marijuana,” prosecutors said in a news release.


Such a great price (if it is indoord weed)

Because 98% of people are still getting it on the black market. Of course it is, no ****. You keep moving the goal posts back and making new arguments

Yes, once. Why? In my youth I also took mescaline (via peyote) and psilocybin (via magic mushrooms).

Acid is far from harmless to some people, and that's a fact.

Caffeine is far from harmless to some people, and that's a fact.

A strawberry is far from harmless to some people, and that's a fact.

A peanut is far from harmless to some people, and that's a fact.

Can you explain how I moved the goalposts? Genuinely don't understand where you're getting that from

And none of them have anything to do with this thread, or an assessment of relative risk.

Sorry, I thought we had moved on to stating facts that are obviously true yet do nothing to advance the dialogue.

Don't forget the breathing. Nothing's worse then sitting next to a morbidly obese person that smokes. Their breathing is probably the worst noise ever.


Sleep apnea anyone?

Fair enough. For what it's worth, your post pretty much matches where I stand on the issue, which is funny because I don't smoke weed (I don't smoke at all). Gotta be one of the rare instances of being pro-legalization despite having almost zero interest in partaking.

A few of my pro-weed friends will spout out such things as "Dude, alcohol is totally legal and yet it's as dangerous as any poison. Meanwhile, weed is illegal despite being completely harmless." Just wanted to make sure you were NOT one of those types.



Haha, okay... guess I spoke too soon.

Sounds like you hit the sweet spot in terms of dosage b/c it's pretty easy to have cognitive abilities deteriorate to where those wouldn't be easy tasks.

There can be varying degrees of harm associated. I think most people who try LSD have positive experiences and do feel enlightened. I know some people where there was a lasting impact long after coming down. To each their own as you say.

I can add to that n factor. Psychedelics have always been an enlightening experience. To a degree that is hard for myself to imagine or describe without feeling foolish. Have always woke up feeling clear and with a good sense of self. Clearly they are not for everyone, but if you are of sound mind and body, have researched thoroughly, know what you are ingesting, and it's an experience you seek, I am an absolute proponent. Multiple experiences with LSD and psilocybin. Licencesed master of a skilled trade and business owner in that trade for what it's worth.

Likely he planned to keep one pound for himself and donate the rest to medical M clinics all over the USA.

Or he planned to sell it. Either way, he shouldn't be sitting in prison.