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Old 05-20-2020, 11:29 PM   #176
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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Let me explain something to you. Poker players are essentially scumbags, and nearly 100 percent of them cheat on their taxes. Nearly 100 percent of those looking for this bailout are playing online and 100 percent of those are committing fraud when they apply for PUA because not a single one who applies mentions anything about playing online.

Make no mistake, the level of tax fraud in all things poker is higher than every occupation except street walking prostitutes and drug dealers. It remains to this day the only activity where legends of the game openly talk about witnessing murders back in the day. It is essentially a lowlife activity, pursued by people offering zero to society. That is why poker advertisements are never from mainstream companies. They don't need your bust out lifestyles money. The reason you don't have nice things is because you are a poker player...i.e. likely a major life loser. The truth hurts.

The exact purpose of this Cares Act money is to help those who aren't generally in the system. A homeless guy filling out the application would be telling the truth, while almost all poker players would be telling lies. You know it, and everyone who plays poker knows it. There is not a more dishonest group of people in the country. It remains the only activity in human history where millions can be stolen without repurcusions of any kind. I will stop unless you want further humiliation.
have you ever worked in the corporate world?

everyone is trying to scam one another and get one over on the next guy for their own personal benefit...

they just do it with a suit on and a smile on their face...

if anything card players should be lauded for their balls to just cut right to the live feed.....

the balls to just throw their money on table and **** all the bs....


most dishonest group of people in the country?

have you met people lately? do you watch the people on tv who tell us what
to do all day? do you see how the world is operating right now?

we live in a kingdom of bs


and lol at all of you talking about taxes and fraud

the whole monetary system is fradulent and the amount the peons get pales into comparison to what the big corps get

the money isn't even backed by anything ....they just run the presses non stop...


just lol at all you self righteous
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Old 05-20-2020, 11:41 PM   #177
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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Let me explain something to you. Poker players are essentially scumbags

The reason you don't have nice things is because you are a poker player...i.e. likely a major life loser

There is not a more dishonest group of people in the country. It remains the only activity in human history where millions can be stolen without repurcusions of any kind. I will stop unless you want further humiliation.
So, uh, what brings you to our little poker forum?
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Old 05-21-2020, 02:33 AM   #178
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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The key to this is that once you get in the system and get your approval, you need to ride the wave and make sure you never check the wrong box. There is no way a live human is looking at these things for more than thirty seconds...unless something is way off or you check the wrong box. Don't be surprised if this is extended multiple times. Make sure you were "affected by Covid-19" for the key weeks that they add the 600, which is basically from the end of March through the end of July. If you stumble upon this thread later in the year, and they have not extended the 600, you will still get back pay, but you will only get the 600 for those weeks between late March and late July. That is low five figures that you need to make sure you snag.

If you are unsure how to fill out the form, spend the time to get your game plan so you get accepted. If you know anybody who has never worked, never paid a dollar in taxes, and otherwise would have zero chance of ever getting unemployment, then I have good news for them...they will get approved, and my calculations show that this is essentially 17K-ish of free money over the 39 weeks. There may be an opportunity to help others, including homeless, who could use a break in life, and absolutely have no idea this money is sitting there waiting to be picked up. There may even be an opportunity to help some people from start to finish, and say: "I am going to show you how to get this free money without even having to tell a falsehood, and if you want to throw me a bone when you get paid, then you can do so". I've been making sure I have a conversation with every hard luck person I see. I quickly explain the deal, show them the website, and wish them luck. There won't ever be another time in history where you can get money like this just my logging into a site and answering a few questions. Don't waste the opportunity.

P.S. if you ever log in to make a post, press submit, then get that sinking feeling because you have been automatically logged out and your post has disappeared, do not panic. Back out of the window, and you will likely see your text. Copy it, log in, and paste it. Get in the habit of copying your important longer posts before hitting submit, so you don't lose the post.
How would any poker player who havent filed for 2018 & 2019 tax get approved for unemployment/PUA? Do you know if you have to apply for taxes if you had a break-even year? I am self employed but most of 2019 I was working on an online business that failed and I had lost a good bit of my BR in that venture and now I cannot play poker or go into ecommerce (everything is made in china and it is tough to do business there right now) because of this pandemic..

Any suggestions is very much appreciated!
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Old 05-21-2020, 05:07 AM   #179
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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How would any poker player who havent filed for 2018 & 2019 tax get approved for unemployment/PUA? Do you know if you have to apply for taxes if you had a break-even year? I am self employed but most of 2019 I was working on an online business that failed and I had lost a good bit of my BR in that venture and now I cannot play poker or go into ecommerce (everything is made in china and it is tough to do business there right now) because of this pandemic..

Any suggestions is very much appreciated!
Unless I'm just completely missing something, with all the "Homeless have a shot at PUA" etc... You have to have filed in 2019

I mean, I had to upload a copy of my Schedule C and 1099
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Old 05-21-2020, 11:27 AM   #180
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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Let me explain something to you. Poker players are essentially scumbags, and nearly 100 percent of them cheat on their taxes. Nearly 100 percent of those looking for this bailout are playing online and 100 percent of those are committing fraud when they apply for PUA because not a single one who applies mentions anything about playing online.
Quite a claim. Please provide your evidence that professionals who file their taxes as poker players (S/E Schedule C or S-Corp papers, either works) are guilty of fraud?

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Make no mistake, the level of tax fraud in all things poker is higher than every occupation except street walking prostitutes and drug dealers. It remains to this day the only activity where legends of the game openly talk about witnessing murders back in the day. It is essentially a lowlife activity, pursued by people offering zero to society. That is why poker advertisements are never from mainstream companies. They don't need your bust out lifestyles money. The reason you don't have nice things is because you are a poker player...i.e. likely a major life loser. The truth hurts.
My wife and 2 kids would disagree with both on being a lowlife and offering zero to society. I’ll be sure to ask them again next week when we go to Hilton Head for our annual summer vacation. When our families get together for Friday night cookouts in the neighborhood there are two types of guys in attendance. The ones who are envious of what we do (w/o fully understanding the grind) and guys like you. Not worrying about pleasing everyone is a requisite to this occupation.

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The exact purpose of this Cares Act money is to help those who aren't generally in the system. A homeless guy filling out the application would be telling the truth, while almost all poker players would be telling lies. You know it, and everyone who plays poker knows it. There is not a more dishonest group of people in the country. It remains the only activity in human history where millions can be stolen without repurcusions of any kind. I will stop unless you want further humiliation.
Define what “Aren’t in the system?” means. Hey, if a homeless person can provide his Schedule C or S-Corp papers documenting their income then yes, they would be eligible. Unfortunately for them, and for your baseless claim, they would not have the documents required to be approved for PUA or any other form of UI.

Please feel free to continue humiliating me as I’ll be returning to the home I own once I pick up an iced latte at Starbucks in my Lexus.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:03 PM   #181
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Are you really bragging abt owning a house and a lexus on the internet. That's not even brag worthy that's average af.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:46 PM   #182
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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Let me explain something to you. Poker players are essentially scumbags, and nearly 100 percent of them cheat on their taxes. Nearly 100 percent of those looking for this bailout are playing online and 100 percent of those are committing fraud when they apply for PUA because not a single one who applies mentions anything about playing online.

Make no mistake, the level of tax fraud in all things poker is higher than every occupation except street walking prostitutes and drug dealers. It remains to this day the only activity where legends of the game openly talk about witnessing murders back in the day. It is essentially a lowlife activity, pursued by people offering zero to society. That is why poker advertisements are never from mainstream companies. They don't need your bust out lifestyles money. The reason you don't have nice things is because you are a poker player...i.e. likely a major life loser. The truth hurts.

The exact purpose of this Cares Act money is to help those who aren't generally in the system. A homeless guy filling out the application would be telling the truth, while almost all poker players would be telling lies. You know it, and everyone who plays poker knows it. There is not a more dishonest group of people in the country. It remains the only activity in human history where millions can be stolen without repurcusions of any kind. I will stop unless you want further humiliation.
any tipped employee ever lies about their income and they're also applying for unemployment.
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:00 PM   #183
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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Are you really bragging abt owning a house and a lexus on the internet. That's not even brag worthy that's average af.
Iím only having some fun with a troll. Lots of time on my hands these days lol.
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:04 PM   #184
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Iím only having some fun with a troll. Lots of time on my hands these days lol.
Fair enough
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:26 PM   #185
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

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The key to this is that once you get in the system and get your approval, you need to ride the wave and make sure you never check the wrong box. There is no way a live human is looking at these things for more than thirty seconds...unless something is way off or you check the wrong box. Don't be surprised if this is extended multiple times. Make sure you were "affected by Covid-19" for the key weeks that they add the 600, which is basically from the end of March through the end of July. If you stumble upon this thread later in the year, and they have not extended the 600, you will still get back pay, but you will only get the 600 for those weeks between late March and late July. That is low five figures that you need to make sure you snag.

If you are unsure how to fill out the form, spend the time to get your game plan so you get accepted. If you know anybody who has never worked, never paid a dollar in taxes, and otherwise would have zero chance of ever getting unemployment, then I have good news for them...they will get approved, and my calculations show that this is essentially 17K-ish of free money over the 39 weeks. There may be an opportunity to help others, including homeless, who could use a break in life, and absolutely have no idea this money is sitting there waiting to be picked up. There may even be an opportunity to help some people from start to finish, and say: "I am going to show you how to get this free money without even having to tell a falsehood, and if you want to throw me a bone when you get paid, then you can do so". I've been making sure I have a conversation with every hard luck person I see. I quickly explain the deal, show them the website, and wish them luck. There won't ever be another time in history where you can get money like this just my logging into a site and answering a few questions. Don't waste the opportunity.

P.S. if you ever log in to make a post, press submit, then get that sinking feeling because you have been automatically logged out and your post has disappeared, do not panic. Back out of the window, and you will likely see your text. Copy it, log in, and paste it. Get in the habit of copying your important longer posts before hitting submit, so you don't lose the post.
Interesting. I was regularly employed for years, paid taxes last year, but haven't been employed since October.

If someone could get set this up for me Id happily ship $500 through PayPal. And that's upon approval, not upon receipt of first payment.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:40 PM   #186
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In one way or another it sounds like you qualify. What state are you in?
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:14 PM   #187
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Re: Poker players eligible for unemployment under the new stimulus bill?

I know this is a thread about PUA unemployment but wanted to share the fact that I just successfully applied for a PPP loan as a self employed person (professional gambler) that files a Schedule C.

This is a Paycheck Protection Program but also covers independent contractors and the self employed. The maximum amount you can receive is 2.5 months worth of income or salary up to income of $100k a year max.

Take your 2019 Schedule C line 31 amount and divide by 12, then multiply by 2.5. Yields $20,833 if income over $100k. It appears as though some if not all of this may be forgiven, and unlike unemployment you dont have to pay income tax on it. And even if not forgiven in whole, it seems like a freeroll as the loan is 1% for two years with a six month deferral in the beginning. IF you havent filed for 2019 you simply make a Schedule C for 2019.

Small caveat is that if you receive this loan you cannot continue to collect unemployment benefits. They just distributed the rules about forgiveness and it would seem that the loan may be forgiven entirely.

I applied here:https://www.kabbage.com/paycheck-pro...program-loans/
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:02 PM   #188
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In one way or another it sounds like you qualify. What state are you in?
Nevada.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:08 PM   #189
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Go to https://www.employnv.gov/

The site might be down now tho. Shutdown for upgrade now thru tomorrow 8am.

So might do it then. Click File a PUA Claim and answer the questions. If approved you can start submitting weekly claims and back date all the way to mid February I believe but most impacted around mid March when shut downs happened.

The weekly is based off 4% of your highest earning quarter from 2019, helps to have tax return for 2019 to submit. Then you will get the bonus $600 per week added on.

$181 min. and $469 max per week plus the $600. If you don't have proof of income you will still get the $181/wk plus the $600/wk.

Payouts are supposed to start on this coming Wednesday. Let me know when you are ready for my paypal address.

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Old 05-22-2020, 11:17 PM   #190
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:22 PM   #191
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Yes, its real. I got approval email today. Tomorrow we start putting in weekly claims for all the past weeks and current and payment supposed to start on Wednesday.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:11 PM   #192
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Go to https://www.employnv.gov/

The site might be down now tho. Shutdown for upgrade now thru tomorrow 8am.

So might do it then. Click File a PUA Claim and answer the questions. If approved you can start submitting weekly claims and back date all the way to mid February I believe but most impacted around mid March when shut downs happened.

The weekly is based off 4% of your highest earning quarter from 2019, helps to have tax return for 2019 to submit. Then you will get the bonus $600 per week added on.

$181 min. and $469 max per week plus the $600. If you don't have proof of income you will still get the $181/wk plus the $600/wk.

Payouts are supposed to start on this coming Wednesday. Let me know when you are ready for my paypal address.

Probably a stupid question but what if you weren't working in 2019, what is the 4% based off of then?

Ive been calling the NV detr unemployment and attempting to use the website for months while still unable to get through to talk to anyone and wondering if i should just go through this route/other page instead.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:17 PM   #193
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Weekly filing is open now, If you have not applied yet, just do it and answer the questions.
I believe even if you didn't work last year you get the min $181/wk plus the $600 a week back dated to Mid may when shutdowns happened.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:35 PM   #194
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Great, I just entered in a weekly filing for all the past weeks and now it shows unresolved issues on my claim, but its not just me its most everyone in the facebook unemployment group I follow.

Hopefully it is just a weird glitch that means nothing and payments still go out Wednesday.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:45 PM   #195
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First they said payments would go out today May 23rd, when did they change it to this Wednesday?
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:52 PM   #196
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They made up some bs about weekend and holiday. But yes the head lady talked live yesterday and said Wednesday. You would think they would have known about weekend and holiday when they announced Saturday payout. lol
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:07 PM   #197
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:21 PM   #198
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Well after about an hour of finally getting my user name/ and pw to reset i was able to log in! Only to fill out a ton of stuff get about half way through to where i start entering my employment history only for the site to tell me its TIMED OUT lol. Of course i go back in to see the hour of info putting was wasted and not saved at all weeeeee...took all my strength not to throw my laptop off the balcony. I remember getting so irate to the point i would smash stuff around the house months back when having to deal with this crap lol. Then i just gave up and quit trying/caring, Agggghhhh a simpler time indeed.... little bit of hope has once again been shattered. End rant, ur welcome.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:26 PM   #199
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Yeah, that's what I don't have to deal with. I hate that **** sooooo much.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:37 PM   #200
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When this works and the money starts flowing. Take that amount and divide by a few hours of time invested and check your hourly.
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