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Poker Player Brad Booth stole ~,000 from Me Poker Player Brad Booth stole ~,000 from Me

06-04-2012 , 12:41 AM
god damn what a mess

from shoving brick of hundos into Phil Iveys face with no fear...

to making Oxy induced crybaby videos

guess his recent blackmail attempt re: Hellmuth didn't pan out so well

keep on truckin' Bradley
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06-04-2012 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob999
Yuk on Brad doing this.
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06-04-2012 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerman22
you probably have alot of evidence that he stole from you so you should probably take this to the legal system to try and get your money back
Highly doubtful this would ever be successful. A civil suit based in the U.S. dealing with the transfer of money over an online poker site based in Europe would have very little merit, imo.

As far as evidence, OP has 1 (?) witness and a text message log, but nothing on paper detailing the deal, much less notarized by a proper authority or signed by both parties.

Judge Judy might take a crack at it though.
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06-04-2012 , 01:23 AM
i ****** hate the handful of tv-famous scum bags ripping people around the game and killing pokers reputation. these guys are such disrespectful tards. bb... what a joke. gl with the situation.
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06-04-2012 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ce1ska
Upside is he didn't have to pay the 5-10% vig he would usually pay to get money off Merge.
I'm not buying that. Risking 30k to save 3k, is NOT an upside in a scenario where you have zero personal relation or knowledge of the person you are giving it to.

Coming on here to smear Brad is one thing, but OP doing it when he's contributed to his own demise handily is another. Like, 99% contributing to his own misery, the other 1% being his friend saying "oh ya he's good for it."

I've said before, and I only say it to prove a much broader point, and this case is just one more upon thousands of examples, but if I ever need to scam someone to make a lot of money, I'm going to choose poker players. What a blank check with zero threat of recourse. They will make zero attempt to try and collect from you, and the absolute worst thing they will do is post about you on an internet forum, where half of the replies will be against them anyway. Poker players are easier to scam than the elderly. They'll lend and risk 30k to a total stranger for no personal gain, but then when they lose it, they can't be bothered to spend the time or extra tiny fraction of 30k to track the person down and take real action. That is lolz.

"I'm a deposed Nigerian king, and you're not gonna believe this but my entire fortune is tied up on Poker Stars..."
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06-04-2012 , 01:50 AM
wow met him a few times playing in Canada, seemed like a good guy
hope it get resolved
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06-04-2012 , 01:51 AM
Anyone attacking OP needs to STFU, obviously he realised in hindsight that loaning the money was a mistake. We should be thanking him for bringing Brad Booth's scamming ways to attention so that nobody else can be scammed by him.
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06-04-2012 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WCGRider
As an online player with virtually no live background, its tough to see things like this coming because these people are so well known. However with things such as the lindgren issue coming to light, it seems that that mantra needs to be changed.
lol. the "im an online guy" thing is so weak. just stop it. the online scammers are even worse. this has nothing to do with online v. live.
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06-04-2012 , 01:57 AM
This Brad Booth character seems like a pretty untrustworthy fella.
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06-04-2012 , 02:40 AM
I feel bad for you OP but I've played with Brad probably 2 dozen times at Wynn over the last 8 or so months and he has mentioned how broke and in debt he is in probably 9 of the sessions.
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06-04-2012 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Anyone attacking OP needs to STFU, obviously he realised in hindsight that loaning the money was a mistake. We should be thanking him for bringing Brad Booth's scamming ways to attention so that nobody else can be scammed by him.
Thanks, OP, for posting this! If I had not read it I would never have realized that it was stupid to give 30K to a poker player I had just met. It was hard for me to imagine that my friend's friend would so mistreat me, but now the wool has fallen from my eyes. Thanks 2+2!
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06-04-2012 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JayLV
It may strike you as odd, but to some people, the risk of going to jail, etc is worth less than the money.

There's a lot more to this situation than people know about, the people insinuating WCG's friend was "in on the scam" are complete morons. Brad owes money and has asked for stakes from many many people, he's just a degenerate and pit degens all the money away.

It's an unfortunate situation all around, Brad's a nice guy, has had a bunch of **** stuff happen in his life and can't control is gambling addiction. Brad always had plenty of money on him, and covered an initial xfer, the second one probably wouldn't have been an issue either if Brad hadn't gambled off all his money. Sucks for WCG, but at the end of the day he'll be alright, it's not his life savings or case money. Hopefully he gets paid back and hopefully Brad isn't afforded the luxury of borrowing from anyone in the poker world.
Can anyone elaborate on that? read it multiple times in this thread
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06-04-2012 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wobblychair
Can anyone elaborate on that? read it multiple times in this thread
When you meet him for the first time he's a very nice guy. The people who seem to know him well all seem to have a different view of him.
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06-04-2012 , 02:51 AM
What Brad did is the most common scam that seems to be pulled -

1)Borrows money 1st time and pays back right away

2)Earns immediate trust from vic and tries again for higher amount with NO INTENT on ever paying him back on 2nd loan

I've said it again and I'll say it now - before poker became GLAMORIZED in 2003-2004 and beyond, most of the regular players were all degen gamblers and con artist hustlers. Unfortunately, ESPN and Travel Channel and Fox Sports turned these same guys into lovable media darlings. It also brought out a new crop of scam artists and hustlers who saw the huge advantage of tv exposure.

Well fellow 2+2'ers, these stories are what we ended up with. And the sad part is that for every Brad Booth, EDOG and Chino scam story there are thousands of other ones that do not get the forum coverage.

The truth is that these stories have always been around and they always will be.
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06-04-2012 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wobblychair
Can anyone elaborate on that? read it multiple times in this thread
If you are asking what bad things have happened to him, he was one of the biggest victims in the Ultimate Bet Superuser scandal. He reportedly lost over a million if I recall correctly.

That is a tragedy and is on Russ Hamilton. How Brad has handled things since then is on Brad.

At one time he was a highly regarded player. Now, not so much.
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06-04-2012 , 03:06 AM
next time i see him at cascades ill call him a scamer right in front of everyone. how pathetic of him. such a hypocrite
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06-04-2012 , 03:11 AM
f brad booth and wtf is up w ur avatar?
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06-04-2012 , 03:29 AM
Serious but simple Q, OP:

Why'd you send him money before he handed you the cash? You said that you derived comfort from the fact that he had a ton of cash in front of him. So...if he HAD the cash, and was supposed to hand it over right away, why on earth would you xfer online monies first? Or to put it another way: just what was in it for you? You weren't taking a vig on the swap, right? Were you just excited to tell people that you were swapping 5-figures with a TV-pro? Seriously trying to understand the motivation and incentives to leave yourself as vulnerable as you did.
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06-04-2012 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyFBI
Serious but simple Q, OP:

Why'd you send him money before he handed you the cash? You said that you derived comfort from the fact that he had a ton of cash in front of him. So...if he HAD the cash, and was supposed to hand it over right away, why on earth would you xfer online monies first? Or to put it another way: just what was in it for you? You weren't taking a vig on the swap, right? Were you just excited to tell people that you were swapping 5-figures with a TV-pro? Seriously trying to understand the motivation and incentives to leave yourself as vulnerable as you did.
Obviously I don't speak for the OP but I am almost 100 % it was the whole "exciting story with a tv pro".

Again, getting some significant tv time opens up a lot of avenues, both good and bad ones. Also, tell me if this guy's name was John Smith the OP would have done the same thing. Um, no.
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06-04-2012 , 03:44 AM
So if I become a so called well known high stakes pro that has been on TV, you will just ship me 30k without knowing me?
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06-04-2012 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ufestor147
So if I become a so called well known high stakes pro that has been on TV, you will just ship me 30k without knowing me?
lol - there are probably people who would, yes.
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06-04-2012 , 04:02 AM
Sucks what happened op, is there any updates to ur situation.
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06-04-2012 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyFBI
Serious but simple Q, OP:

Why'd you send him money before he handed you the cash? You said that you derived comfort from the fact that he had a ton of cash in front of him. So...if he HAD the cash, and was supposed to hand it over right away, why on earth would you xfer online monies first? Or to put it another way: just what was in it for you? You weren't taking a vig on the swap, right? Were you just excited to tell people that you were swapping 5-figures with a TV-pro? Seriously trying to understand the motivation and incentives to leave yourself as vulnerable as you did.
I have won a couple hundred k on merge this year, and then also had money i had put on there and a high number of stakes as well. I was in the process of trying to remove my funds, and then I had heard news of the lock/cake merger, and was trying to move myself to a more secure situation given the amount of money I had on there. They have a withdrawal limit of 10k per withdrawal that goes through every couple of weeks. That limit was 4k for a long time. Ive been trying to get all of my money off of merge for basically forever, and most of the transfers are at 90c/$1 which I didn't want to take part in, being that I am not in a situation where I need cash immediately.

I wasn't with Brad when he had the money, my friend was. I assumed he was good for it because he was well known and i was not. So an opportunity to try and remove some lock poker money seemed like a good situation for me. I made a mistake, and I have been forthright about this throughout the thread. However people that dont understand why I would even trade at all, have not had situations where they had to move large quantities of money, it is very difficult and the sites oftentimes make it hard for you to get your money quickly.
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06-04-2012 , 04:21 AM
Seriously how much of a fool must you be to send that amount of money to someone you hardly even know

Honestly people are so thick it is beyond comprehension

You fully deserve what you got
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06-04-2012 , 04:22 AM
Seems to be a discrepancy between what I have heard on the 2p2 pokercast - Brad is a great guy - and the truth of the situation as told in the 2p2 forums. I strongly suspect this isn't the only old school tv pro this discrepancy applies to. New school players clearly need to be less respectful of the reputations of players portrayed in the poker media.
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