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04-25-2017 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HelloFriends
*sigh* I went from laughing at him and enjoying this train wreck to feeling bad for the guy. He needs to be locked up until he isn't a danger to people or himself.
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04-25-2017 , 01:58 AM
...and that's a felony
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04-25-2017 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Okay maybe that's the way in accountancy, but if you get fired from a job as a lyricist surely your boss would call you into their office and say "Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more".
hardest I've laughed on 2p2 in a while

Sage bringing huge brightness to this thread right before the crash
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04-25-2017 , 02:34 AM
Apparently it was his brother Armando that called the Bellagio. (source Hashtags Periscope)
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04-25-2017 , 03:16 AM
Wow he is more unstable than I thought. It's fun to make fun of and berate out of line people but this seems pretty serious actually. Dude is crumbling.


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04-25-2017 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by IvegotnoClue
Sorry Doug, can you further explain your Argument why saying you looked at your Cards when you (may) didn't is anyhow an Angle?
I stumbled upon this part but didnt look the whole thing and may missed something.
First, isn't it your responsibility to be aware and look what the player did or did not?
It may be unethical in a very friendly homegame, but how is it in any casino setting?
Second, how is that different from any other lie about your Hand(including a Bluff) or tabletalk?
Third, Isn't it the case that you want to take advantage of him raising blind by 3betting light and therefore want to know if his statement is true?
So he says he didn't look which might or might not be true, if true he puts himself in disadvantage, if not true he (tries to)put himself in advantage, but in both cases, it only will apply if you also want to take advantage of him.
If this is not your Intention, you just could ignore his statement, like any other tabletalk, and play your hand accordingly.It would be either good, or bad(aka angling) for you, just neutral, so no reason to speak up on it.
Further on just try to see if he has any pattern with raising blind, if he really does look at his cards or not, if he does it with random or specific(premium) hands only.If you spot a pattern, exploit it.Just like he does try to do with you with this kindergarten trick.
If you don't spot any pattern or don't want to, cause you play gto and are not into that, just ignore it.
So, IMO, either your logic isn't correct here, he tries to exploit as you do, or it LOOKS like you are just turn things around and say he's angling while IMO you are angling(socially kinda^^) You try to get the truth out of him and want to know what to do, so you are angling yourself by accusing him of angling, because, as stated, otherwise his statement of raising blind is just neutral to you and not worth a single argument. It's technically within the rules, but just goes against the spirit of the game and is a massive angle.
Besides that, he is a clown, you are not
Just because there's a way to exploit someone attempting to angle you, doesn't mean it's not an angle. Of course it's your responsibility to attempt to not be angled. The whole idea of an angle is whether or not it's something within the spirit of the game. For example, it's okay to lie and say "yeah I have the nuts, you should fold", because verbal deception is considered part of the game. However, the idea of playing blind but not actually have played blind seems to go against the "spirit of the game". Of course this is up for debate, as all determinations if something is actually angling or not is up for debate, because "spirit of the game" or "unethical play" can't exactly be codified. Most people have simply determined lying about playing blind goes outside the scope of "spirit of the game" or "ethical play" which I agree with. Another comparable example of an angle is two people agreeing to flip by going allin blind, so the first guy goes allin blind and the second guy then goes back on his gentleman's agreement, then decides to looks at his cards and call or fold. It's technically legal, but a big angle. You made a gentleman's agreement about the nature of the game you're playing, and then you're changing the game you're playing without the other person's knowledge to get an advantage. Lying about your holdings while saying things like "I have the nuts and you should fold" is understood as part of the game of poker, whereas lying about agreeing to flip blind or saying "I'm playing this hand blind" goes against the gentlemen's agreement of the game you're playing and to me is an angle. In a different time, all 3 of these things could be considered angles or all 3 of these could be considered fair game, it's really just up to the general public's perception of "fair play".

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04-25-2017 , 03:44 AM
Shouldn't televised poker at least pretend to be fun and entertaining? I am just trying imagine somebody new who is starting to learn poker seeing this video. It is like table full of trolls, misanthropes and untrustworthy humans constantly in latent conflict with others.
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04-25-2017 , 05:24 AM
Can somebody explain to me why every small decision Matt Glantz makes with this show attracts a tirade from the poker twitterati suggesting he is destroying the game? I know he has beef with a few people, but has he actually done something really bad in the past that has sparked this anger? Genuinely asking.
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04-25-2017 , 05:26 AM
I agree with previous posters ITT that some of the things recently appearing on #HTK's social media are worrying. So I wish him well in stabilising everything and hope he can do this soon with help from his family.

I am not a religious believer myself although I respect all those that are, but him talking to someone in confidence, a Rabbi or an elder in his Synagogue might also be a wise way of him sharing and solving things.

I wish him well and good luck moving forwards, and as I said some stabilisation and peace.

*Live* poker is not real life it is only an artificially created finite time (session) period microcosm of real life. This is something people using bravado (but taking it too far) should always consider and equally something that players on the receiving end of someone else's over the line bravado should remember when calculating the best strategy to deal with it and successfully cope with it.

It is not truly real when it's done to you, so make devising your strategy to deal with it, to feel comfortable around it, and if possible to even profit financially out of it, part of your overall game playing strategy. This area is important to successful live play in the same way that dealing with table talk/speech play also is.
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04-25-2017 , 06:22 AM
who else is following the HTK mental breakdown on social media? his gf got tf outta town and he's threatened to kill about 45 people in the last 24 hrs lol
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04-25-2017 , 06:26 AM
Seems his instagram is gone.

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04-25-2017 , 06:34 AM
hashtagkingca1 & hashtagkingca

for instagram & twitter, facebook is his real name
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04-25-2017 , 06:38 AM
This Winterhalter chick just tanks waaaay too long. So tilting....
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04-25-2017 , 07:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_hwISoC65k

if you wanna hear him ramble on and make not much sense at all lmao
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04-25-2017 , 07:04 AM
Lmfao complete melt down.

Odds on him either being arrested or beaten up in the next few days??
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04-25-2017 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
From gobbo boy twitter.

Didn't take a picture but Solomon ponte just got escorted out by metro from Bobby's room when he sat down and refused to leave.
The 1 time in your life you post something semi-interesting, it's been here for an hour already. Good job. Stick to taking pictures with Fergusson imo
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04-25-2017 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by thethethe
Seems his instagram is gone.



And his twitter.
O boy.. he's losing his "world", something that gives him meaning. I predict total collapse soon.

If he didn't treat people like **** then maybe I would feel sorry for him but he does so **** him.
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04-25-2017 , 08:10 AM
This will only end one way..
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04-25-2017 , 08:22 AM
i had to catch a little of one of the youtube videos and lmao at HashtagKing's reaction when Cantu says "can we all agree doug is the richest here?"

HTK almost falls off his chair refuting it so quickly like he is the richest of them all as he pawns off "atleast $4500 worth" of stuff (watch or two, chain, phone, sunglasses) with his pocket's empty.

like, people are that dumb?
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04-25-2017 , 08:43 AM
I always wondered what drives people to public mental breakdowns like that. Do they not realise it makes them look bad? I mean, surely even the stupidest person realises that begging for money on stream and filming themselves getting kicked out of hotel makes them look bad.

Or maybe they are intentionally making themselves look bad as a form of self-punishment? But that sort of exhibitionism is usually rooted in narcissism, and narcissistic people don't usually do that.
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04-25-2017 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
I always wondered what drives people to public mental breakdowns like that. Do they not realise it makes them look bad? I mean, surely even the stupidest person realises that begging for money on stream and filming themselves getting kicked out of hotel makes them look bad.

Or maybe they are intentionally making themselves look bad as a form of self-punishment? But that sort of exhibitionism is usually rooted in narcissism, and narcissistic people don't usually do that.
People like HTK seem to think this kinda stuff makes them look badass.
Same for the girl in the kickout video, trying to be all though and badass.
Just two mental unstable people that don't know how things work and lie to themselves to feel good.

So no, they don't realize it.
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04-25-2017 , 08:56 AM
apparently he's been out of touch with reality since he binked the tourney score and its been a downward spiral ever since then, someone should talk **** about his family at live at the bike lets see if Solomon really has the parts to fight or kill someone what a ****tt show hashtagking week is gonna be lmao, blows my mind that for maybe a few thousand more viewers they are going through with it he's mentally unstable to say the least
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04-25-2017 , 09:05 AM
Imagine deeb has the most money at that table, of the poker pros at least.


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04-25-2017 , 09:10 AM
Not sure why everyone is so upset with the episode. HTK is a major douche yes. I cringed/ felt embarrassed for the dude all throughout.

But the few memorable, amazing games I can fondly look back on all had lineups like this. It makes for a seriously good poker game entertainment and action wise. I understand why some people don't want him back on, but come on, seeing a douchebag on life tilt/ trying to sell his **** to stay in the game is pretty classic and funny... as long as you dont get **** on your hands.

Did you guys notice none of the pros were even fazed by his antics? They've probably seen this so many ****ing times in non televised games.. its just another trainwreck trying to throw his money away.... and it's theirs if they put up with some insults and hostility.
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04-25-2017 , 09:14 AM
Wow... I hope someone close to him can somehow get through to him and convince him to get psychological help.

Even though the circumstances are different, reading about this from afar gives me the same type of eerie feeling as the Brandi tragedy...
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