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wtf is up with americans still using checks? Im almost 30 and have never ever used, seen or heard of checks used in my country. (other than my great grandmother who told me storys about the old days)

Its 2011 folks.. cmon!!

04-08-2011 , 04:36 AM

#202

sveinape

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpLotta

Maybe I'm getting leveled here, but having a checking account does not necessarily imply using checks

04-08-2011 , 04:38 AM

#203

§437 Nr. 3

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,097

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Fizzle

-There is a company called PMI, which FTP was using as a third-party payment processor.

-At some point, PMI apparently went "rogue" and started withdrawing money from player's bank accounts that looked like deposits to FTP, but were not, essentially siphoning money from player's bank accounts.

- When first advised that one of their 3rd-party processors was illegally withdrawing funds, FTP's response was: "Sorry, we didn't authorize that, so we can't help you."

- According to some FTP reps, they are now looking into this. This possibly could be a major security breach or an inside job, or just a case of a bad processor going into business for themselves. By this point, it seems FTP is aware of the great numbers of their customers that were adversely affected.

- FTP has made no public statements, however, or warnings to their players to watch for fraudulent charges. Many 2 + 2 users are frustrated by this.

- There are other websites complaining about PMI. Many of the robbed were also FTP players, and it is unclear how many, if any, are aware of the threads on 2+2.

- If you are able to reach PMI, they will claim an "error" and reverse the charges. However, many people can't get through, and there are countless others who are not aware of threads like these and probably doing nothing.

- It is unclear atm if this affects non-US players

thanks!

im euro and i dont have any charges. still, ftp so shady these days

04-08-2011 , 04:46 AM

#204

Blizzuff

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,713

I get the impression that FTers who were hit are people who deposited sometime in the last year or so. Is this true? Has anybody who has only withdrawn from full tilt gotten hit by this?

04-08-2011 , 06:11 AM

#205

TheTiger213

banned

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 232

OP - CHANGE THE TITLE OF THREAD - Like anyones gonna open a thread that just says PMI 888888987878 u want ppls attention not ppl to just see the numbers and not open it,and damn I hope you guys get ur money back sounds shady

04-08-2011 , 07:41 AM

#206

atakdog

addicted

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTiger213

OPs can't change the titles of their threads; only mods can. Stop yelling.

04-08-2011 , 09:03 AM

#207

BluffDetective

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Wray

Holy...! Thanks for 5 starring this guys. Looks like there are no charges on my accounts even though PMI sounded really familiar. I'll keep an eye out and spread the word.

QUICK! Get PMI victims to start playing Pokerstars.net The Big Game Freerolls. We got to make videos for these people then conduct a voting campaign fast! Meanwhile, why don't you pump your miscellaneous cash and free time in helping a single (OR MAYBE TWOOOO THIS TIME) person(s). Holy ellipsis!

Wait... Jimmy, I mean John.. No Jimmy... whatever.. listen, PMI doesn't stand for Pedophilia for Men Incorporated that's a separate charge on your debit statements although it's no surprise you thought that acronym was familiar.

04-08-2011 , 09:57 AM

#208

smellmuth

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,954

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluffDetective

there are dozens of people who have been affected, at a minimum. perhaps you shuold stop posting.

04-08-2011 , 10:17 AM

#209

No Fizzle

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Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker viceroy

3rd I was told by my bank that PMI is a shell for National Payment Provider based out of Indiana. I asked FT if this was one of their 3rd party processors and have not heard anything back (big surprise)

I read the same thing about "National Payment Provider" on a thread I found via Googling from Ireland.

Also, I posted this in the other thread (HOW are these not merged/stickied?!?):

Also, if you do a little googling, you can find many similar threads. In many early posts, when people called PMI and demanded an explanation, they were told that PMI was a former payment processor for FTP. This begs the question:

Why did FTP originally decide to sever ties with PMI?

If it turns out FTP knew what PMI, but neglected to tell their players...Well, somebody has a lot of explaining to do.

04-08-2011 , 11:35 AM

#210

Nicotine Dreams

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,195

Would be a shame to let this one sink any lower.
Rather curious myself.

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Edit/MH: Please see http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...s-now-1011278/ for current discussion.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-08-2011 at 03:13 PM.

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