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Players possibly getting more hands in blinds, less on BU/CO @ Party Poker (Fast Forward games) Players possibly getting more hands in blinds, less on BU/CO @ Party Poker (Fast Forward games)

04-27-2021 , 01:33 AM
fish are always gonna go broke so all this achieves is more rake. any estimates on what the bb/100 rake increase would be?

seems like a dumb way to rig the system by only having cutoffs reduced on 6 handed tables, why not split between btn co hj?

feels like incompetence to me, with or without malicious intent, not sure. im sure rob yong is a whale and I know one thing, you never put a player who makes moves like cold calling 3bets with 64s oop in charge of poker operations. hes on record saying he never studied the game, guy cant even spell poker. how this got by the board of directors is some mafia **** or something. clown site.

someone affected needs to contact their rng certification company and the gaming comission, be proactive. good luck.
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04-27-2021 , 06:59 AM
Anys reactions from Party on this?
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04-30-2021 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
Anys reactions from Party on this?
From new user in IP thread:

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Originally Posted by JLIU2002
My name is Justin and I play under the alias "nostalgicfish" on Party. My main game is 100nl fastforward.

This thread was brought to my attention by a friend who also plays on party. I checked my database and found I am getting substantially fewer IP spots when I play fastforward, costing me hundreds of dollars in EV.

About a month ago, I noticed the "sit out next blinds" button was not working for me. About 30ish percent of the time, when I sat back in, the software would start me in an IP spot or the SB. I believe this bug may be the cause of the discrepancies.

Last week, I contacted my account manager about the sit out next blinds bug providing video evidence. This was the reply from the Party devs:

"Managed to replicate, we've found the root cause and the fix needed. Being done as priority now. Will require changes to server so earliest we can do is 1st week of May if Dev can do it in time."

I have asked my account manager to press the Party devs for a thorough explanation of the exact cause of this bug, and whether it is causing the IP discrepancies. I believe we should give Party the benefit of the doubt but it has some serious questions to answer. The fact that the sit out next blinds button was bugged is egregious and unacceptable. This is something that would never happen on Stars or GG, and in my opinion Party should come out with a public explanation of what exactly is going on.
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04-30-2021 , 05:35 AM
'sit out next blinds' button works perfectly as long as you press it while there is hand being played. (it doesn't when you're waiting for a new table to be created).

That being said, whos getting all the buttons then?
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05-03-2021 , 06:52 PM
MY DB shows the same as other winning players. Way less hands in the CO over a large sample size.
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05-03-2021 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by david negus
fish are always gonna go broke so all this achieves is more rake. any estimates on what the bb/100 rake increase would be?

seems like a dumb way to rig the system by only having cutoffs reduced on 6 handed tables, why not split between btn co hj?

feels like incompetence to me, with or without malicious intent, not sure. im sure rob yong is a whale and I know one thing, you never put a player who makes moves like cold calling 3bets with 64s oop in charge of poker operations. hes on record saying he never studied the game, guy cant even spell poker. how this got by the board of directors is some mafia **** or something. clown site.

someone affected needs to contact their rng certification company and the gaming comission, be proactive. good luck.

As if a board of directors ever looked at the RNG or similar lol.
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05-06-2021 , 08:03 AM
Hello, saw this thread posted on discord.

Unfortunately, my regional client doenst have hand histories from PartyPoker, but I have noticed that if you use sit out next big blind feature and you are sat out - your next hand should be dealt on the big blind right? Well on Stars it works perfectly - you sit out next BB - your next hand after clicking "I am back" button is BB. On party sometimes you continue your play on BTN / CO so maybe something to look at it. If I recall correctly once I was dealt even 3 BTNs in a row or something like that, never really give a lot of attention to this as I thought its just balancing the times I am getting 3 SBs in a row for example.
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05-07-2021 , 02:03 PM
surprised Pikachu face

party doesn't even let you know if other people are sitting out
wouldn't surprise me at all if this ends up being true
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05-07-2021 , 02:38 PM
This is a disgrace
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05-07-2021 , 10:43 PM
Im sure we all get the ev refunded from however many years of this bug existing right?

:^)
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05-08-2021 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Im sure we all get the ev refunded from however many years of this bug existing right?

:^)
thats why gambling commissions exist.

or not
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05-08-2021 , 09:14 AM




Last edited by oneselfishguy; 05-08-2021 at 09:21 AM.
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05-09-2021 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by krolewicz
'sit out next blinds' button works perfectly as long as you press it while there is hand being played. (it doesn't when you're waiting for a new table to be created).

That being said, whos getting all the buttons then?
Not true. I showed my account manager video evidence of the sit out next bb button not working (and I still have that video evidence). I still haven't gotten a robust explanation of whether the sit out next bb bug is connected to the CO/IP issue, but when I voiced my suspicions that the two were connected, it was not denied by Party.
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05-12-2021 , 03:24 PM
Has this been fixed? It seems mad that there hasn't been any statement from Party on this.
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05-12-2021 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by _jimbo_
Has this been fixed? It seems mad that there hasn't been any statement from Party on this.
there is no poker comunity why would they say anything?
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05-13-2021 , 07:14 AM
Is it possible that there's an issue that arises from multitabling and being sat at new tables/waiting for new players? Something like if you're the first or second person to sit at a new table you're less likely to be given CO position than if you're #3-5? And people who are multi tabling and I assume playing faster than average are more likely to be players 1 or 2 at a fresh table?

Not sure if that makes any sense but might be something to consider.
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05-13-2021 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
Is it possible that there's an issue that arises from multitabling and being sat at new tables/waiting for new players? Something like if you're the first or second person to sit at a new table you're less likely to be given CO position than if you're #3-5? And people who are multi tabling and I assume playing faster than average are more likely to be players 1 or 2 at a fresh table?

Not sure if that makes any sense but might be something to consider.
this was the only conclusion that me and the other regs could come to, however a couple of multi tabling regs have also posted in here saying they received the correct number of COs
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09-03-2021 , 12:23 PM
not me, but would like to draw attention to a reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...intentionally/

This is regarding the Seating Algorithm Bug in the fastforward games on partypoker causing multiple people to get dealt winning positions less frequently ( Button, Cut off )

if we can draw more attention hopefully partypoker can stop ignoring refund requests off of people who have been affected by this
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09-03-2021 , 12:34 PM
There was already a thread on this a free months ago I think
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09-03-2021 , 04:17 PM
It's so crazy that this hasn't been fully explained yet, not to mention that it hasn't even been touched by party (right??)
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09-03-2021 , 08:41 PM
From the reddit post above:

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09-04-2021 , 09:59 AM
Who would of guessed that the reputation on Party for being a more difficult site likely has less to do with the players and more to do with less winning position hands being dealt. Classic.
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09-14-2021 , 11:29 AM
“When my account manager was in voice call with the programmers and asked about possible refunds, they responded ‘But you knew about the bug, so why would we refund you


kek
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09-17-2021 , 05:27 AM
I don't think this is a bug but it is by design. That is why they haven't fixed it and I bet they won't fix it until they are forced to. If it was a bug that was costing them money, it would have been fixed immediately.

Last edited by tilter29; 09-17-2021 at 05:37 AM.
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