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Player 'You' on Global. Genius or something shady going on? Player 'You' on Global. Genius or something shady going on?

05-01-2024 , 01:48 AM
Hello,

Interested in what others have to say. I Have been playing professionally for many years online and have never encountered someone like him. Does a lot of (borderline) idiotic things, takes lines no other reg takes time after time, and plays anyone and any format for many tables at once. I am fairly certain he is the biggest winner in terms in bb/100 of any MSNL reg on global.

I would be relieved to hear from other regs that are in study groups with him or know him personally and know that he studies a lot/has a different approach/whatever.

Another player that stands out in having a very unique style that screams something shady is 'bronbron94'

I realize it's kind of BS to just come out publicly and more or less accuse two players, but Global MSNL is a small player pool and I'm hoping some other regs can weigh in. If many others have similar concerns, then I think raising the issue is valid, but I'm hoping instead that they are known personally by other regs that will just tell me they are good regs that study a lot and that I should stfu and get better instead of complain about them.
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05-01-2024 , 03:47 AM
Bronbron is a known RTA cheater
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05-01-2024 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Bronbron is a known RTA cheater
Do you have evidence/are there past threads discussing this?
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05-01-2024 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by misterburrito
Do you have evidence/are there past threads discussing this?
You can go read the Global thread back around January.
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05-02-2024 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DEFIasco
Hello,

Interested in what others have to say. I Have been playing professionally for many years online and have never encountered someone like him. Does a lot of (borderline) idiotic things, takes lines no other reg takes time after time, and plays anyone and any format for many tables at once. I am fairly certain he is the biggest winner in terms in bb/100 of any MSNL reg on global.

I would be relieved to hear from other regs that are in study groups with him or know him personally and know that he studies a lot/has a different approach/whatever.

Another player that stands out in having a very unique style that screams something shady is 'bronbron94'

I realize it's kind of BS to just come out publicly and more or less accuse two players, but Global MSNL is a small player pool and I'm hoping some other regs can weigh in. If many others have similar concerns, then I think raising the issue is valid, but I'm hoping instead that they are known personally by other regs that will just tell me they are good regs that study a lot and that I should stfu and get better instead of complain about them.
I've played thousands of hands vs "You" and I've never thought he was anything but a fairly solid reg. He takes some unorthodox lines, but just seems like he's adjusting per player type.
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05-03-2024 , 07:32 AM
Hi, I play on global as 'You'

I will take starting the thread as a complement but not sure what you are accusing me of.. super using? rta? annoying playstyle? Id suggest you post some proof next time then just trying to kill someone's action.

FWIW I've played a lot vs Bron and his one of the few regs that actively will try to find holes in my game, which forces him to play far far away from GTOw solutions or whatever his being accused of by random nl50 fishregs.

A suggestion: Instead of starting threads or making baseless accusations id suggest to the inbetween regs who NEVER start tables and just bumhunt aggressively, to instead, i don't know, use that time to try getting in the mix and improving?
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05-03-2024 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IMightBluff
Hi, I play on global as 'You'



I will take starting the thread as a complement but not sure what you are accusing me of.. super using? rta? annoying playstyle? Id suggest you post some proof next time then just trying to kill someone's action.



FWIW I've played a lot vs Bron and his one of the few regs that actively will try to find holes in my game, which forces him to play far far away from GTOw solutions or whatever his being accused of by random nl50 fishregs.



A suggestion: Instead of starting threads or making baseless accusations id suggest to the inbetween regs who NEVER start tables and just bumhunt aggressively, to instead, i don't know, use that time to try getting in the mix and improving?
Maybe he stopped once he realized it's easy to get caught and he was being called out.
But it's pretty clear he had several matches and was using RTA at the time of the accusations.

Just because he's not cheating now doesn't mean he wasn't cheating before and that still makes him a pos in my book.
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05-08-2024 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by IMightBluff
Hi, I play on global as 'You'

I will take starting the thread as a complement but not sure what you are accusing me of.. super using? rta? annoying playstyle? Id suggest you post some proof next time then just trying to kill someone's action.

FWIW I've played a lot vs Bron and his one of the few regs that actively will try to find holes in my game, which forces him to play far far away from GTOw solutions or whatever his being accused of by random nl50 fishregs.

A suggestion: Instead of starting threads or making baseless accusations id suggest to the inbetween regs who NEVER start tables and just bumhunt aggressively, to instead, i don't know, use that time to try getting in the mix and improving?
The thing is he's not solid. He will do things a bad regular would do one day with a lot of bad leaks that a decent player would not have. Then the next few days play perfectly. Something odd is going on with this guys account.
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05-08-2024 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
The thing is he's not solid. He will do things a bad regular would do one day with a lot of bad leaks that a decent player would not have. Then the next few days play perfectly. Something odd is going on with this guys account.
I haven't tracked him for a while because I refuse to play in games with obvious cheaters, but he's very likely still using RTA to inform some of his decisions. After he was called out, he very quickly adapted to using GTOw during off hours (so no one would FP check him) and/or using some other untrackable RTA like Odin. I know this because I stopped getting FP checks on him during peak hours, but would get the occasional one during off hours with low traffic, yet he still had the same bizarre style and tanking every decision. A lot of these checks were run when I wasn't even sitting, and I'm pretty sure I'm up $ lifetime on him so I'm not complaining about him taking my bankroll or something like that. I did get $65 randomly from Global the other day though for some unknown reason....

I don't know why some people seem to think you can only be using RTA if you use it every time and punch in exactly the hand info as it played out. Projectbaby was considered laughably stupid here because he was doing this on every board, down to the exact bb. In other words, he was very, very easy to expose. A person of average intelligence should be assumed to be changing at least some of the details of the hand to add some plausible deniability. Bronbron doesn't run every board, and he occasionally changes the positions and potsizes. Who gives a **** though? He's cheating. I have dozens of exact down to the minute FP hits across multiple weeks. It's not in question whether he used/uses RTA. That has been proven beyond a doubt.


Also lol at these defenders of him saying 'git gud.' Bro, I strongly suspected before I even ran him that he was cheating, I only ran the FP in GTOw because I wanted proof. Actually good players can tell immediately when something is off. And it's not surprising to me at all that others have noticed the same thing.

Last edited by TookashotatChan; 05-08-2024 at 04:00 PM.
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05-08-2024 , 04:10 PM
You and bron are both mainly 100nl players, right? Why wouldn't they be playing bigger if they were actively cheating?
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05-08-2024 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
You and bron are both mainly 100nl players, right? Why wouldn't they be playing bigger if they were actively cheating?
Two obvious reasons

1) Smaller player pool so more scrutiny
2) Smarter player pool so more likely to be caught
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05-08-2024 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
You and bron are both mainly 100nl players, right? Why wouldn't they be playing bigger if they were actively cheating?
He was only playing 200nl when I logged in a few hours ago. Some of the tables were very tough I doubt an average 50nl reg would even be winning just using river RTA.
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05-08-2024 , 05:21 PM
Ah so he's playing 200NL now, good to know. Must be some kind of prodigy to show up out of nowhere and beat 200NL 5 months later. I wonder how much money he will take out of the pool before Global bans him, maybe there's a 6 figure minimum?
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05-09-2024 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
He was only playing 200nl when I logged in a few hours ago. Some of the tables were very tough I doubt an average 50nl reg would even be winning just using river RTA.
200nl tables are only tough on global when the 1k regs are playing, because of the lack of tables running at higher stakes.
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05-09-2024 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
You and bron are both mainly 100nl players, right? Why wouldn't they be playing bigger if they were actively cheating?
He got caught cheating playing 100nl. What do you think would happen if he played higher in a much smaller pool? This really isn't that hard.
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05-09-2024 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteLand23456
He got caught cheating playing 100nl. What do you think would happen if he played higher in a much smaller pool? This really isn't that hard.
Also games 200 and up don't even run that often. When they do it's like 1 or 2 tables. All the volume is at 100.
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05-10-2024 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteLand23456
He got caught cheating playing 100nl. What do you think would happen if he played higher in a much smaller pool? This really isn't that hard.
He got caught cheating at 50NL, actually. It's been interesting to be accused of having some personal axe to grind over losses to a far superior player, despite the fact I've refrained from ever publicly naming the accused until now. It's also been interesting to see others slowly realizing and speaking up about what I noticed right away.
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