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08-29-2023 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wazz
I believe this is the wrong ruling and everyone is supposed to get all their money back here
Eh, it's was a frustrating situation, but I think it's the right ruling.

Otherwise, I could have angle-shoot freerolled it as soon as I realized I had the wrong number of cards. I could have just kept betting and won the pot guaranteed if my opponent folded, but if I went to showdown, I could have shown my three-card hand gotten my money back regardless of my cards.

Everyone getting their money back is usually reserved for fouled deck situations where no player could have acted with knowledge the deck was fouled. (Like, if two players both show the Ah at showdown, everyone gets their money back, but if you're dealt AhAh you need to alert the dealer immediately or your hand will be dead at showdown.)
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08-29-2023 , 05:15 PM
Returning the money and rewarding the opponent for his mistake is the most Gen Z thing I have ever read.
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08-30-2023 , 09:04 AM
Misreading your hand will be the new freeroll for angleshooters if y’all want to enable it
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08-30-2023 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDough
Misreading your hand will be the new freeroll for angleshooters if y’all want to enable it
Lol no it won’t
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08-30-2023 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDough
Misreading your hand will be the new freeroll for angleshooters if y’all want to enable it
Angleshooters would freeroll by check/calling 6 high oop on turn+river?
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08-30-2023 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Angleshooters would freeroll by check/calling 6 high oop on turn+river?
Assuming the bettor just mucks when they bluff, this is a mega freeroll
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08-30-2023 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69
Assuming the bettor just mucks when they bluff, this is a mega freeroll
BRB, gonna make thousands of dollars by check-calling River shoves with 6-high today.
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08-30-2023 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
BRB, gonna make thousands of dollars by check-calling River shoves with 6-high today.
to be fair the great whale punisher Paisting has this in his arsenal. he once explained check/calling a river all-in with 5-high in order to make his opponent's betting range tighten up (aka Paisting won't ever be bluffed). he's only down a little over 12 million buy-ins at 2NL so it can't be a bad idea...
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08-30-2023 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
BRB, gonna make thousands of dollars by check-calling River shoves with 6-high today.
This place will never be confused with a Mensa discussion forum
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08-30-2023 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Lol no it won’t
Why not if you can just constantly claim you misread your hand and get your money back
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08-30-2023 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Why not if you can just constantly claim you misread your hand and get your money back
So you are trying to play split pot nlhe where you try and beg for half the pot? Or less actually.

And if you get aggressive anywhere no one is going to give you money back. They will realize it’s possible they could have been pushed off the best hand.
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08-30-2023 , 01:40 PM
Watched the video without sound. To me it looked the guy with 64o wanted his money back, almost begging for it. Maybe dragging out the process makes good TV. The guy who won found it a bit embarrassing, didn't twist the knife, classy. Must play it with sound.
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08-30-2023 , 02:35 PM
If they really misread their hand, they should get a full refund. If they are trying to angle shoot, they should not.
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08-30-2023 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
If they really misread their hand, they should get a full refund. If they are trying to angle shoot, they should not.
First no we're taking about grown ass people not some child. Second how would you discern the difference?
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08-30-2023 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
So you are trying to play split pot nlhe where you try and beg for half the pot? Or less actually.

And if you get aggressive anywhere no one is going to give you money back. They will realize it’s possible they could have been pushed off the best hand.
i was referring strictly to regular nlhe. an easy angle would be to just claim i misread my hand every time my draw missed on the river. I wouldn't even have to do it every time just doing it half the time would save me a lot of money on my missed draws.
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08-30-2023 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dude45
First no we're taking about grown ass people not some child. Second how would you discern the difference?
I don't know. Haven't gotten that far.
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08-30-2023 , 04:48 PM
Isn't correctly reading your hand part of the skill in the game? Like, it's a very, very, basic part of the skill, but it's still a poker skill.

Let's say a new player called an all-in with a straight on a four-flush board because they forgot that a flush beat a straight. Would they deserve their money back in this circumstance? What if they called an all-in in PLO with quads in their hand because they forgot they could only play two cards? Like, what dumb beginner mistakes are we supposed to forgive and which ones are we supposed to punish?
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08-30-2023 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dude45
i was referring strictly to regular nlhe. an easy angle would be to just claim i misread my hand every time my draw missed on the river. I wouldn't even have to do it every time just doing it half the time would save me a lot of money on my missed draws.
Where’s the value? You call two streets with a flush draw and brick the river. But you then call the River bet anyway with nothing and say you misread your hand, so the other guy feels sorry for you and gives you your River bet back.

How are you making money this way?
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08-30-2023 , 06:25 PM
https://youtu.be/zkPDOrACNdc?si=A7TlAMJ-uU0Kkx21

What about this hand? Whale mucks best hand by accident, player offers him money back.
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08-30-2023 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69
https://youtu.be/zkPDOrACNdc?si=A7TlAMJ-uU0Kkx21

What about this hand? Whale mucks best hand by accident, player offers him money back.
Same situation: 100% player's fault and not owed a refund. Otherwise it opens up angleshoot possibilities.

Returning the money is an act of charity and keeps the whale happy.
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08-31-2023 , 05:00 PM
What’s next, I misread the hand rankings chart? I thought a straight beat a flush. My bad, give me my money back!
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08-31-2023 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wazz
I believe this is the wrong ruling and everyone is supposed to get all their money back here
Nope. Players are supposed to know how many cards are in their hand.
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09-06-2023 , 01:52 PM
Not gonna fault someone for offering a rebate, but the winner in such a situation is absolutely under no obligation to do so. Potential for exploitation is obvious, as others note.

Personally, I'm pretty sure I never would except in very rare circumstances.
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09-06-2023 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69
https://youtu.be/zkPDOrACNdc?si=A7TlAMJ-uU0Kkx21

What about this hand? Whale mucks best hand by accident, player offers him money back.
Dk is pathetic for excepting the money that's what I think
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09-07-2023 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
I’d consider it pretty scummy behavior to keep it.
Having been reading this forum since April 2007, this statement is presumably the most ridiculous one here ever hitting my eyes, but fits perfectly in the current pampering environment we live in ...
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