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Old 07-27-2009, 04:15 PM   #151
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No lol. They are being more cooperative now so I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't destroy the reputations of people and companies for fun. If they are innoncent they need to be given a fair chance to show it.
Glad to see this tone. Good for you. Get your ducks in a row, make your case bulletproof, and THEN if you can do all that, well, as Monty Burns would say, release the hounds.
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Old 07-27-2009, 04:18 PM   #152
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I should also say that I have contacted people claiming to have evidence of the sweatshop thing and if they don't provide greater detail in a timely manner they were almost certainly inventing it.
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Old 07-27-2009, 04:28 PM   #153
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I should also say that I have contacted people claiming to have evidence of the sweatshop thing and if they don't provide greater detail in a timely manner they were almost certainly inventing it.
I can see both sides of this viewpoint, actually. They definitely could have completely fabricated it, that's certainly possible. However, if they don't have evidence that doesn't mean it didn't happen. What evidence can they really have? A paystub from "Pitbull Scammers, LTD."? Photos of puerto ricans superusing? It's pretty difficult to have any good evidence unless they were planning on outing them in the future, especially since they probably wouldn't have a way to obtain this evidence after the fact, either. Obviously regardless of whether or not it's true, not having any evidence is the main concern anyway, but you can see how it would be difficult for someone who actually was a part of this situation to have any.
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Old 07-27-2009, 04:41 PM   #154
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I should also say that I have contacted people claiming to have evidence of the sweatshop thing and if they don't provide greater detail in a timely manner they were almost certainly inventing it.
LOL the post that broke the ub scandal wide open was insanely vague and mysterious...
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Old 07-27-2009, 04:46 PM   #155
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I shouldn't have used the word "evidence". "Details" is what I meant. For example, other employees and maybe some recollection of hands or opponents played.
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Old 07-27-2009, 05:02 PM   #156
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal

Why do I feel like I just watched a crappy ending to an otherwise good movie?
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Old 07-27-2009, 05:30 PM   #157
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its kind of weird, that they remove their HHs, then a few days later are willing to speak more constructively, best of luck either way chester
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:19 PM   #158
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Why do I feel like I just watched a crappy ending to an otherwise good movie?
Don't misundertsand the change in tone to mean I think they are innocent. But they are now giving us the courtesy of dialogue so I would like to be polite so we don't chase Dave off with pointless insults.

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Old 07-27-2009, 06:36 PM   #159
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If anyone is interested LadyH has pictures of the owners of PB
post it....
kevin or d? or both?

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Old 07-27-2009, 06:52 PM   #160
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No, I just know how to get there and it was in San Pedro
where in san pedro?

how many meters from mcdonalds?
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:52 PM   #161
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where in san pedro?

how many meters from mcdonalds?
San Pedro is a suburb of San Jose in Costa Rica
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:59 PM   #162
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San Pedro is a suburb of San Jose in Costa Rica
i was asking what part of san pedro....

like from the mall... where is it?
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:11 PM   #163
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it was near the mall but not the big mall
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:43 PM   #164
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I play on AP so I guess I should make a pitbull account if this all turns out to be true.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:47 AM   #165
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"Pitbull Poker is fine, there is nothing wrong with our Hand Histories, it will all be sorted out by next week"
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:29 AM   #166
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News is spreading.

http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-...nt-072709.html

http://www.richardmarcusbooks.com/20...-hole-card.htm

http://nodepositpokerbonuses.net/pitbull-poker-problems

http://www.4flush.com/online-gamblin...g-update/3190/

http://www.ukpokerinfo.co.uk/pitbull...r-player-1157/

This is just from a Google search.

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Old 07-28-2009, 07:57 AM   #167
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At the very least, word is out that people should think long and hard about trusting PBP with their money.

Seeing that they've exhibited horrendous customer service, their 2+2 representative keeps changing their stories, and then the host of other allegations, it is easy to see that the cheating aspect does not even need to be proven to realize that putting money here is a poor decision.
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:07 AM   #168
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I shouldn't have used the word "evidence". "Details" is what I meant. For example, other employees and maybe some recollection of hands or opponents played.
If you can get two separate people to corroborate a minor detail (such as where was the bathroom located? or what color were the chairs? that sort of thing), let alone the major ones, it'll be pretty damning.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:32 AM   #169
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I have a script to grab hand histories, if anyone wants to try it PM me. I can't test it as my account has been deactivated.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:46 AM   #170
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Management Update -

There seems to be two separate issues here, its time that we clarify this so Chesterboy's issue can be resolved, which should be the goal of this thread.

1) Chesterboy's issue which we all can read about in the OP

2) The agenda of PitBullSucks and the related shill accounts such as crbb which were started by the same person, these accounts have been banned from 2+2 this morning.

Some time ago I learned about a former employee of PitBill which was trying to extort them, this former employee came on 2+2 and used our forum to further the extortion attempts, we banned that user and deleted the threads because Two Plus Two cannot be used as a tool for extortion, it breaks many of the rules in the User Content and Conduct section of the T&C. The actions of PitBullSucks looks very similar but I cannot say for sure its the same person even though he was banned for nearly the same reasons.

Lets make it clear up front, former employees and insiders of PitBull who are here to help people like Chesterboy get a satisfactory resolution are welcome with open ar,ms, former employees of Pitbull and insiders who have other agendas are not welcome here. Our goal as a community should be to help Chesterboy and if necessary disclose any wrong doing by PitbullPoker if and only if wrongdoing is found, taking pot shots while a company is down does not help the cause in any way, lets stay focused!

BTW - the photos that PitBullSucks posted were not cool, posting photos of Dave is not only against the T&C in this specific situation because it was used by an insider to further a personal vendetta, it also risks the USA facing online poker industry as a whole.

I've locked this thread because the topic is best addressed in the duplicate thread found in the Internet Poker forum, two threads on the same topic may accidentally slow down finding a resolution for the OP, please take all future discussion there. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...rusers-540094/

Last edited by *TT*; 07-28-2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason: It sickens me that this thread is being used by Richard Marcus to further his agenda. See link above.
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